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goilers · 06-05-2022, 11:39 PM

I’m not personally a fan of pests on the ice & messing with players gloves like dumping water into them or anything like that. However I don’t mind a little banter on the ice & understand why some players play that role. Typically if you have a pest on the team you cheer for it’s not as annoying then having to watch someone mess with your favorite players. I think snowing a goalie is just asking for a scrum in front of the net or potentially getting a fist to the head & I think that’s well deserved. I don’t usually get mad when I see things like that but I do however get annoyed. I think sometimes it’s funny like the Oilers game a couple nights ago there was a little scramble in front of the net & a player went behind Evander Kane & flicked his helmet, little things like that don’t annoy me, it makes me laugh.
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***ProjectSaint*** · 06-05-2022, 11:41 PM

RESO: Me, a pest..........I don't see that within my personality.

EVO: Wait, what? You were one annoying me smug guy back when you were younger.

RESO: Yeah, I know, but I doubt that I am what I was back then. Well sure, back when I was younger, all I needed to do to those smaller than me was just to give a crooked smile that pissed them off and they would try to drop gloves just to get with me. Nowadays, though, I just can't be asked to do so. My heart grew 3 sizes, so to say, and I just had less of an inclination to be a goon against those that were against me, my friends, my family or my teammates. I can throw the hands against any fool that tries, but I prefered to craft them towards scoring and assisting.

EVO: Wow.......my cousin grew soft

RESO: I still have your childhood stuff hostage.

EVO:...........you dick.

Steelhead77 · 06-05-2022, 11:49 PM

Prompt 1: written

My player Parmborg definitely has it in him to be a pest and get under the skin of the opposing players, I think it definitely has its place in the game of hockey especially when down in a game and your team needs a spark. First thing I would do is start talking about the opposing players wives, there's not rules in this arena and anything goes on the ice, so I would make comments about their wives as if I had slept with them, etc, that usually gets in the heads of anyone. To be prepared I would make sure I knew the names of all the opposing teams wives ahead of time to really get them thinking. It's called doing your homework and being a great pest, the game within the game. Outside of that I would make fun of something about their appearance or their stats. Parmborg is a classy player 95% of the time but when his team needs a spark he will stoop to any level to help them.

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*Drokeep* · 06-06-2022, 12:26 AM

Prompt 2

These kind of shenanigans and innocent attacks are exactly what hockey is about, more so than the direct hitting and fighting. If you can use some mind tricks and little annoyances effectively, you can upset the balance of the opposing teams psyche, giving you an edge in the long run.

The double edged sword aspect of this is that when it happens against your team it can be infuriating. For example snowing the opposing goalie is always a fun time and its a pleasure to watch, but when it happens to our own tendy, you know we are about to throw hands. In the end these kind of interactions are another layer of strategy and plays available for teams, because getting in the head of the other team can completly win you the game, since their players and head coach will be more focused on retaliating and returning those punishments rather than focusing on the goal scoring

Mazatt · 06-06-2022, 12:27 AM

As a two-way defender, Axel Foley doesn't really feel the need to get into being a pest. He's not offensive enough to go out and talk trash over his ability to score, and he isn't a gritty enough defender to really set the tone with heavy cross or body checks. So really, why get into trash talking or getting under other teams skin? Maybe in the twighlight of his career that'd be worthwhile to stick around, but for now he wants to focus on the game at hand. However, he does have one style of getting under opponents skin--tickling. The meat of it is that you catch your opponent off guard by tickling them when in a net front battle. It's something they truly never see coming, and it really sets opposing teams players off. I mean, who wants to get tickled? This is something really reserved for the main shit-disturbers on another team, just as a subtle way to mess with them and potentially surprise them. Routinely players will get upset and yell "did you just fucking tickle me!?" and Foley can either shrug it off with a dumbfounded look, or ask if they're really cheesed at getting tickled of all things. But that's all the shit distrubing he will take part in.

FuzzSHL · 06-06-2022, 12:30 AM

Quote:Does your player have it in them to be a pest? Do they enjoy finding ways to irritate their opponents even if they can't find a way to actually win the game? Or is this kind of thing beneath you? Are you a good ol' hockey player through and through? Maybe a mix of both? If you are a bit of a pest, tell me some of the tricks your player likes to get up to. If you aren't, tell me what your player thinks of other players that DO like to do these things. (150+ words)

Aleksi Kettu just doesn't have it in him to be a dirty player or a pest, no matter the score of the game or the potential outcome. Kettu has found himself in some precarious predicaments in the past, but the common denominator in all of those moments has been a player on the opposing team being a pest. The cocky, arrogant showmanship of players whose only contribution to the game is dirty play really tends to get under Kettu's skin. Hockey has no place for play like that, period. The game has slowly shifted away from that sort of play, thankfully, but there are occasionally still those types of players who try to make a name for themselves in that sort of manner, and it is truly detrimental to the game. Kettu just wants to keep his head up and make some plays in front of the net and be a pest when it comes to screening the opposing goalie, nothing more.

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Briedaqueduc · 06-06-2022, 12:32 AM

It has a place in hockey unfortunately, even though I think it should not. Mental is a big part of hockey, so some players are ready to do pretty much anything to break any player's mental and get an edge. Although you should be able to win a hockey game fair and square without any of these little trolls to upset your opponent. I think another issue that can come is that at some point after many trolls that toe the line in a row, it escalates into something that isn't really acceptable anymore, because the player that did it got unbelievably mad from a troll. So, I think it should not be a thing, the better team should win the hockey game, not the team that did the most little trolls, unless it is done in a friendly manner by two people that know each other, otherwise i think it is not really being respectful to the opposing team.

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***Benpachi*** · 06-06-2022, 12:40 AM

Player Prompt

Like any Power Forward worth their salt, Roddy B knows how to get down and dirty when the time comes. With the team down to a rival, and looking for a spark, Roddy would very likely seek out their own Pest, or tough defense man, and go for a fight. While he also favours laying hits, Roddy doesnt like to talk trash or play dirty; he will.make you pay the old fashioned way: slamming into you at top speed, throwing the body at their stars and answering the bell when it is time.

The main reason for this time of hard and heavy play is to inspire his teammates. Also in power forward fashion, Roddy will seek to beat them on the scoreboard first. He knows and understands that a timely goal can be just as much of a swing in momentum as a big fight. Fortunately, he knows how to do both.

*bibleman19* · 06-06-2022, 01:02 AM

Billy Blazes is a notorious pest, ever since he was a young boy he would try to irritate the other team to earn a competitive advantage. His favorite maneuver is to snow goalies whenever he can. This does a great job at throwing the goalie off of their game and can sometimes bait the other team into taking a bad penalty. Just because that's his favorite doesn't mean he restricts himself to just doing that. He is also a big fan of talking trash after a bad play like a giveaway or bad defensive coverage, anything that he thinks will throw people off their game. Occasionally if the opportunity presents itself he will do a little cheeky spray water at an opponent skating by. Although one time it got him in trouble at the Quebec peewee hockey tournament, he was ejected in the quarter finals after snowing the goalie one too many times eventually leading to his teams defeat.

the5urreal · 06-06-2022, 01:03 AM

I think players who have a role as an agitator absolutely have a place in not just hockey, but all sports. Professional sports have a huge mental aspect that is just as important as the skill aspect. Throwing someone off of their game in either aspect can be the difference between winning and losing. The role of an agitator can be just as important as someone that is known for their great defense. Put an agitator on a great player that is easily distracted or is quick to get caught up in the mind games and they can be completely neutralized or even become a detriment to their team. This works very similar to a highly skilled player that is stopped by someone that is great on defense. The frustration of not being able to do what they are normally able to do can make them a total non-factor. Add in the fact that these types of players can be very entertaining and it just ends up being good for the sport.

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JT3 · 06-06-2022, 01:05 AM

Noel is not really too much of a pest on the ice. He does play a hard nosed game, but it doesn't usually devolve into anything dirty or 'greasy'. His seasonal averages are around 90-100 hits with only 30 or so PIMS so he keeps it pretty clean. Usually if he wants to turn the tide a bit or shake things up he just ramps up his physicality to try and build some momentum and get some fight out of his teammates. He's not really one to perform Brad Marchand or Evander Kane type antics on the ice. He's not really too much of a chirper either, although he will respond to folks who chirp him first. Being French, he occasionally likes to chirp people using French insults though and some of the better ones have been picked up on by a few of his teammates. But yeah overall Blanchet is more of an energy, work ethic guy than a pest.

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jsteele14 · 06-06-2022, 01:07 AM

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Do you think mischief like dumping water into other players gloves, snowing goalies, or just generally being annoying has a place in hockey? What do you think about these little interactions that aren't technically against the rules, but can certainly throw players off their game and make them unhappy? I'm not talking about violent stuff, just annoying stuff. Is it fun? Is it entertaining? Or do you get mad when you see people doing that? I want to know what you think about pests and people that "toe the line" so to speak in sports.

Now, I am the type of person that thinks there are grounds for limits. I am also the type of person who thinks you should do whatever it takes to help you get the win (especially if it was something like the playoffs or the championship game), but the counter argument to that really depends if you want to have class or just seen as "the bad guy". Now, if I was in the position, I personally would go the route of being in the unwritten rule area and not due it. I do not think I could live with the fact of being a "bad guy" in the game. It is one thing to do something for the team, but I want to be on the part where I am beating the team while they are on their best preparation and playing their best game. I would not go the lengths of saying it should just be removed from the sport, as like they say there is nothing about it that says they are against the rules, I just would like to have some dignity and not do that myself.

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Allegiant · 06-06-2022, 01:11 AM

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Tommy Thompson was practically born to be a pest. Starting out, he didn't have the same degree of skill that most of his peers had, and he was constantly having to fight and scrap to make up for it. One way of doing that was to try to draw penalties from the opposition. When you're facing off against competition that's faster and more skilled than you, you get used to finding ways to cut corners: and the one thing Thompson has always had an abundance of was hockey IQ and vision. Lucky for him, this also helped him keep an eye on the referee and linesman. That meant knowing when he could get away with a bit of extracurricular stickwork and when he couldn't, when he knew he could hit the extra cross-check as the play went the other way, and when he'd get a penalty. The referees tend to call the retaliations, so if he can bait someone into a retaliation -- he will. The one thing he doesn't do is get mouthy about things. In his mind, being a pest by being physical, and sometimes a little cheap, without having to run his mouth with insult after insult -- that's the kind of thing that really gets people acting dumb. You can respond to a verbal insult, but a slash to the shins with no words? That's the kind of thing you've got to swing lumber to get over.

*Redderder15* · 06-06-2022, 01:16 AM

Prompt 1

Jeff is known for being a bit of both a troll and a nose-to-the-grindstone type of player. He agrees with Luka Doncic's quote "Everybody acting tough when they up", so when he sees people shittalking or laughing at him and his team, he will do anything to bring them down. He'll get under their skin, he'll throw some extra hits, but more importantly Jeff ups his game. The best way to shut up the annoying opponents is a breakaway goal, shattering the defence and a nice top shelf snipe. The best way to take down cocky opponents is to catch them off guard, catch them underestimating you and take advantage. Score. Hype your team up. Get your team moving. Winning is the best medicine, and I can say as a guy on both sides it is the most effective in all scenarios. If you can't win or score, then pissing them off feels great though Smile

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Sopath · 06-06-2022, 01:50 AM

In general I don't mind the pest shit in sports. Spraying the goalie is a dick move but it's not something I generally have a problem with unless it is repeatedly done. I feel like there is always a line that people generally know exists and not to cross it. The problem is that when people keep going beyond that line fucked up shit happens and that's where the inexcusable stuff occurs. There are also things that are just totally never okay. To me putting water in someone's gloves is bull shit and should be penalized. I also think that maybe more fighting should be allowed to deal with this. Part of the problem is that there just isn't much on ice consequences for when the pestering crosses that unspoken line that all recognize. So basically yes being a pest is fine as long as it is not excessive and doesn't have any notable ramification on your ability to play the game.

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