Kalju returns
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Rancidbudgie
Registered Posting Freak
Hey Jruttu - I don't think we've interacted on the site before, but I wanted to reach out here.
I think you should have a second chance, absolutely. I hope that means something, as I'm not a GM, but one of the many people who participate in the site and read the forum posts. However, I think there needs to be some demonstrated growth here before that occurs. Reading your post, I saw no real apology. You seem to be putting more energy into comparing your comments to others and justifying why you should still be playing in the SHL more than you are acknowledging what you have said, and how you recognize it was inappropriate. Without that, many of us here will get the impression that you don't recognize what got you suspended, and that can hurt the potential for empathy and understanding. If you want to call out others for remarks you deem worse than yours, I will be an ally with you in that - but not ONLY for the fairness of it. Comments like the ones you linked of others r, and the ones you have said yourself, have no place in our pluralistic and accepting society. Invalidating a community based on sexual orientation is wrong, and I hope you recognize that, because nothing in your post genuinely reflected that idea. Basically, you come across as saying "I should not have the punishment I did, because others said worse things and got away with it" while I empathize with your sense of justice and fair play, that does not exonerate you or mean you did anything "less wrong". This is a fallacy, and I think the SHL would be more understanding if you had taken this opportunity to admit to the things you were in control of that demonstrated intolerance, and how those comments (and links) were intolerant. And, how you plan to grow moving forward from this. Like I said - I agree with your main point of unfair treatment. But where you lose me, and probably others in the SHL, is by prioritizing the idea that you think you should be punished less because others got away with comments they also should have received penalties for. In the future, if you see anything you think is homophobic, be the first to call it out, and use yourself as a precedent as to how that person erred in being an accepting human being - something we value as a global society, and with the SHL as an extension of that society. If that day comes, I'll be right there with you in support. Thank you to Ham and Sulo for the sigs!
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Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:26 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by Citizen of Adraa - 06-30-2020, 04:19 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 05:20 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 04:48 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by Katth - 06-30-2020, 04:49 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 08:54 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by ACapitalChicago - 06-30-2020, 09:02 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by fishy - 06-30-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 09:19 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by Jobin - 06-30-2020, 10:27 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by CptSquall - 06-30-2020, 10:27 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by CementHands - 06-30-2020, 11:18 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 01:33 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 01:41 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 02:40 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Weretarantula - 06-30-2020, 02:15 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by charlieconway - 06-30-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Tate - 06-30-2020, 12:16 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 01:17 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by slothfacekilla - 06-30-2020, 12:53 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hhh81 - 06-30-2020, 01:13 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 01:18 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Rancidbudgie - 06-30-2020, 01:41 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by RomanesEuntDomus - 06-30-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 02:50 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ThisSeemsFishy - 06-30-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:03 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by sve7en - 06-30-2020, 03:06 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ThisSeemsFishy - 06-30-2020, 03:15 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 03:30 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:37 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 03:42 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:43 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:52 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:12 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 03:14 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Baelor Swift - 06-30-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:21 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hotdog - 06-30-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:41 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hotdog - 06-30-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hhh81 - 06-30-2020, 03:43 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:51 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 03:53 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by boom - 06-30-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 04:15 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by sve7en - 06-30-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by JayWhy - 06-30-2020, 04:21 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by boom - 06-30-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by sköldpaddor - 06-30-2020, 04:39 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hhh81 - 06-30-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 04:01 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Jepox - 06-30-2020, 03:52 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by sköldpaddor - 06-30-2020, 03:55 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Tate - 06-30-2020, 04:01 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by jRuutu - 06-30-2020, 04:04 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hhh81 - 06-30-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by KlusteR - 07-02-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 04:03 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ImShiny - 06-30-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SlashACM - 06-30-2020, 04:27 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by JayWhy - 06-30-2020, 04:29 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SlashACM - 06-30-2020, 06:23 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 06-30-2020, 04:44 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ml002 - 06-30-2020, 05:06 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 06-30-2020, 06:44 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ztevans - 06-30-2020, 05:04 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ztevans - 06-30-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by luke - 06-30-2020, 05:11 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SDCore - 06-30-2020, 05:13 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by luke - 06-30-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:18 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by BarnabasCollins - 06-30-2020, 05:21 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:26 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Samsung virtual assistant - 07-01-2020, 05:45 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by ImShiny - 06-30-2020, 05:22 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:17 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hotdog - 06-30-2020, 05:35 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 06-30-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Thelastheraclid - 07-01-2020, 06:29 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by PremierBromanov - 06-30-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ztevans - 06-30-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by JumpierPegasus - 06-30-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by wumaduce - 06-30-2020, 05:33 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ACapitalChicago - 06-30-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by JumpierPegasus - 06-30-2020, 06:19 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by hhh81 - 06-30-2020, 05:51 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by ACapitalChicago - 06-30-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Leppish - 06-30-2020, 06:38 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by bluesfan55 - 06-30-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 07-01-2020, 06:42 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Evok - 07-01-2020, 06:52 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 07-02-2020, 04:56 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Mutedfaith - 07-02-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: Kalju returns - by Leppish - 07-02-2020, 01:48 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by SpartanGibbles - 07-02-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Kalju returns - by Leppish - 07-02-2020, 05:10 PM
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