07-14-2020, 10:24 AMGrapehead Wrote: It's just depressing to see a downer in every single thread, even these super simple changes that shouldn't offend anyone.
idk man maybe you just have sour grapes.
Oh no @.bojo has only been in Winnipeg for one day and this is already what I've become.
Don't act like you haven't been thoroughly corrupted by bojo for years!
07-14-2020, 10:32 AMTheHockeyist Wrote: I mean, I just didn't see how it was strictly necessary. Maybe more convenient I guess. shrug
if you're wondering why people are mad at you, it's because downplayed the effort people put in to make this site better JUST so you could brag about how you can count zeroes, which is asinine because you can more easily count commas. You're pretending you're smarter than everyone because you choose to do things the hard way for no reason. Even if you can count zeroes easily, you shouldn't have to count them. This is like if someone tied your shoes and you were like "um excuse me, i was doing just fine before! I can keep my shoes on my feet easily enough using my toes and walking in a specific way! Things are easy if you just try!". uhhh, good job I guess. Leave UX to the experts.
I mean, I get there was code involved. I just... we've gone over this. It is true that you can more easily count commas. I was not intended to argue that I prefer to do things the hard way "for no reason". I'm just saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The method worked before at least. And I get it. Improvements for the rest of us. I'm not even... what am I doing. I'm here arguing over whether or not having commas in a number is even necessary to read it when all you need to know is that six zeros pressed is a million and nine is a billion, checking the screen to make sure all six or nine or whatever zeros are there as you type. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. 000000000. Done. How hard is it?
sigh
I get it. I just... argh. As someone who's dealt with commaless numbers in the past and people complaining about zeros, why not just type everything in scientific notation? Instead of 10 million dollars, type 1e+7 dollars. It would make things easier. No more zeros.
07-14-2020, 11:15 AMPremierBromanov Wrote: if you're wondering why people are mad at you, it's because downplayed the effort people put in to make this site better JUST so you could brag about how you can count zeroes, which is asinine because you can more easily count commas. You're pretending you're smarter than everyone because you choose to do things the hard way for no reason. Even if you can count zeroes easily, you shouldn't have to count them. This is like if someone tied your shoes and you were like "um excuse me, i was doing just fine before! I can keep my shoes on my feet easily enough using my toes and walking in a specific way! Things are easy if you just try!". uhhh, good job I guess. Leave UX to the experts.
I mean, I get there was code involved. I just... we've gone over this. It is true that you can more easily count commas. I was not intended to argue that I prefer to do things the hard way "for no reason". I'm just saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The method worked before at least. And I get it. Improvements for the rest of us. I'm not even... what am I doing. I'm here arguing over whether or not having commas in a number is even necessary to read it when all you need to know is that six zeros pressed is a million and nine is a billion, checking the screen to make sure all six or nine or whatever zeros are there as you type. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. 000000000. Done. How hard is it?
sigh
I get it. I just... argh. As someone who's dealt with commaless numbers in the past and people complaining about zeros, why not just type everything in scientific notation? Instead of 10 million dollars, type 1e+7 dollars. It would make things easier. No more zeros.
same reason no form on the planet uses scientific notation: too easy to mess up. Plus people dont really think in digits, they think in magnitudes of thousands, since thats what commas do and it's very common.
07-14-2020, 11:22 AMTheHockeyist Wrote: I mean, I get there was code involved. I just... we've gone over this. It is true that you can more easily count commas. I was not intended to argue that I prefer to do things the hard way "for no reason". I'm just saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The method worked before at least. And I get it. Improvements for the rest of us. I'm not even... what am I doing. I'm here arguing over whether or not having commas in a number is even necessary to read it when all you need to know is that six zeros pressed is a million and nine is a billion, checking the screen to make sure all six or nine or whatever zeros are there as you type. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. 000000000. Done. How hard is it?
sigh
I get it. I just... argh. As someone who's dealt with commaless numbers in the past and people complaining about zeros, why not just type everything in scientific notation? Instead of 10 million dollars, type 1e+7 dollars. It would make things easier. No more zeros.
same reason no form on the planet uses scientific notation: too easy to mess up. Plus people dont really think in digits, they think in magnitudes of thousands, since thats what commas do and it's very common.
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO THINKS IN TERMS OF POWERS OF TEN?!?!?!?!
07-14-2020, 11:32 AMPremierBromanov Wrote: same reason no form on the planet uses scientific notation: too easy to mess up. Plus people dont really think in digits, they think in magnitudes of thousands, since thats what commas do and it's very common.
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO THINKS IN TERMS OF POWERS OF TEN?!?!?!?!
07-14-2020, 11:55 AM(This post was last modified: 07-14-2020, 11:55 AM by .bojo.)
07-14-2020, 11:33 AMTheHockeyist Wrote:
07-14-2020, 11:32 AMPremierBromanov Wrote: same reason no form on the planet uses scientific notation: too easy to mess up. Plus people dont really think in digits, they think in magnitudes of thousands, since thats what commas do and it's very common.
AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO THINKS IN TERMS OF POWERS OF TEN?!?!?!?!
It's not about math/science. It's about readability.
Base 10 is universally used because we have 10 fingers. Much like commas, we use a visual reference like fingers to help us.
Why oof? As I said, I could get along fine with for example 1000000 vs. 1e+6 vs 1,000,000 vs. 1.000.000 vs. 1 * 10^6 or anything... am I just more numerically inclined or something? As if being such was an insult to the rest of the site?
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07-14-2020, 11:57 AMTheHockeyist Wrote: I have clearly read too many scientific articles with that type of numerical notation, which is probably why I don't find it a problem...