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Samsung virtual assistant · 11-21-2020, 05:06 PM

11-21-2020, 04:33 PMteztify Wrote: I don’t mean for this to be mistaken as an official comment from the Owners, I just wanted to share my own views and why I didn’t, and don’t, support a permanent ban of jRuutu right now. I say that with the caveat that I agree posts like SDCore’s, suggesting maybe this site isn’t the right one for Ruutu – that’s a sentiment I agree with. But to me there’s some important reasons we haven’t outright banned Ruutu at this point, despite the likelihood being that his behaviour is obviously trending in that direction.

jRuutu was initially suspended for some horrific and hateful comments, ones which I and many others have challenged him on publicly. In the time since, his behaviour hasn’t improved much – but it has been of a different nature. Ruutu, it seems clear to most of us, trolls the site under the guise of taking the highroad, in a textbook display of whataboutism. What Ruutu has not done is directly attack members in the time since, he hasn’t sent porn directly to targeted members, he hasn’t questioned a woman’s ability to participate equally on our site.

Ruutu is a troll, and he has frustrated many users. I appreciate that. I appreciate that his comments and presence turn a lot of people off, and can be damaging to how welcome people might feel around the boards. To the people who feel that, I hope that this suspension in lieu of an outright banning for now, is not taken as Head Office siding with or protecting Ruutu in any way. I think you will find that some Owners, former Commisioners, and members of Head Office, have been among the most outspoken on challenging Ruutu on his beliefs and persistent behaviour. I take exception, then, to the idea that Ruutu is being coddled by HO.

Ruutu has been suspended a second time for comparatively less than many people who have been. He has been suspended for a second time for behaviour completely separate from the direct hateful rhetoric that he was suspended for the first time, because Head Office understands his behaviour has continued to trend in a negative direction and that he is increasingly offering nothing to the community.

But Ruutu has not been banned yet, because this isn’t Survivor. We don’t ban by petition or popularity. Believe it or not, a lot of Head Office and Ownership is with you on a personal level – there have always been members we, on an individual level, would like to hear less from. But at a Head Office level, setting precedents is something that has to be taken seriously, and banning by witch-hunt is not the precedent any of us want to set.

If that is taken to be an endorsement of Ruutu’s continued negativity, that’s unfortunate.

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PremierBromanov · 11-21-2020, 05:09 PM

11-21-2020, 04:33 PMteztify Wrote: But Ruutu has not been banned yet, because this isn’t Survivor. We don’t ban by petition or popularity. Believe it or not, a lot of Head Office and Ownership is with you on a personal level – there have always been members we, on an individual level, would like to hear less from. But at a Head Office level, setting precedents is something that has to be taken seriously, and banning by witch-hunt is not the precedent any of us want to set.

well said

***hotdog*** · 11-21-2020, 05:17 PM

11-21-2020, 04:54 PMWeretarantula Wrote: just fucking ban the cunt already

the man drafted you, was your GM, gave you a home full of friends in anchorage for two full real life years, and this is how you treat him???

frithjofr · 11-21-2020, 05:23 PM

11-21-2020, 05:17 PMhotdog Wrote:
11-21-2020, 04:54 PMWeretarantula Wrote: just fucking ban the cunt already

the man drafted you, was your GM, gave you a home full of friends in anchorage for two full real life years, and this is how you treat him???

#NotMyAcsolap

Mazatt · 11-21-2020, 05:25 PM

People will be cheesed but like, seems that starting off your tenure as commissioner by ignoring precedent to get rid of a user no one likes would be a pretty big no-no. I'd much rather have the head offices follow the rules and established punishments instead of creating the precedent they are able to ban someone following a single suspension--even if no one likes Ruutu.

SlashACM · 11-21-2020, 05:27 PM

The problem is jruutu is dumb but just smart enough to skirt the rules of actually being banned. I understand how what he does is excessive trolling but I also understand why you would see this punishment as harsh. He just likes to rile people up and then play the victim.

Banning him outright could be a problem because his whole schtick is X got banned for Y, so why is Z acceptable without any bit of nuance or context, so banning him could draw out other people calling for bans of people who troll (though not as maliciously as jruutu). Not trying to be the slippery slope guy but I do believe that jruutu should be given the final chance before the ban, if not just to keep with the precedent of the 3 strikes theme

SlashACM · 11-21-2020, 05:29 PM

@nour suspend efiug for posting cringe

dankoa · 11-21-2020, 05:30 PM

11-21-2020, 04:54 PMWeretarantula Wrote: just fucking ban the cunt already

yeah this basically

GeckoeyGecko · 11-21-2020, 05:46 PM

while i appreciate following the rule of law,

is there anybody who actually thinks hes not eventually just gonna get fucking banned once he does come crawling back?

why bother waiting?

***aleks*** · 11-21-2020, 09:14 PM

ban keygan too

Weretarantula · 11-21-2020, 09:15 PM

11-21-2020, 09:14 PMdmuda11 Wrote: ban keygan too

Yes

PremierBromanov · 11-21-2020, 09:34 PM

11-21-2020, 05:46 PMGeckoeyGecko Wrote: why bother waiting?

because it's not a fact that he will get banned. The law does not get applied based on what might happen but what did happen. HO and especially the mob are extremely fallible, so we must rely on facts and not perceptions

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12-19-2018, 12:31 AMBeaver Wrote: I personally blame the PT affiliation for handing out massive amounts of free TPE to all these players, inflating the TPE they're at when they get called up.

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***hockeyiscool*** · 11-21-2020, 10:10 PM

Happy Thanksgiving, Y'all!

Thelastheraclid · 11-22-2020, 12:08 AM

How many good people does the site need to lose before banning ruutu?

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