Jed Lloren
2 PPG+ Seasons, both of them being top 10 scoring seasons but nothing out of the ordinary flashy. He did have to go up against a lot of minute abusers. He is more of a skill player rather than physical.
Pretty impressive S37 Playoff run for him in terms of production.

Big Z (Zallerras Szlerchek)
Only 2 PPG+ Seasons, both of them top 10 scoring seasons but similar to Jed. More of a physical player. Some noms, no first team all star.

Though there is this thing with like Sarantez/Kian Hamilton
Sarantez has the 1st team all star but no mvp nom, Hamilton has a MVP nom but doesn't have the 1st team all star. So i'm not quite sure what I should take into stock because in personal experiences I can see that they awards committee can be jaded.

These guys I look at aren't exactly considered the best at their position for a decent period of time, but with how the SHL that may be difficult. The players these days are able to go DEEP into regression and fight it off for an extended career at a highly productive level.

There was that time where minutes/lines were getting heavily abused. It's a little tough to straight up blame Minnesota since they didn't start it and were just taking advantage of the system like others.

With how the IIHF is now a rock solid structure have you thought about bringing medals/tournament performances into the equation? Maybe it could be used as some bonus points for players on the cusp of the HOF?

Goalies. Does Haas get in? He garnered some votes this ballot but there are some that have not voted for him yet. There has not been a goalie hat wins MVP that isn't in the HOF, but Timo has one short ass career compared to these guys that have like double his games played. He did play most of his prime and 8 seasons is a pretty good stretch.

I am thinking we should maybe pay bojo to come up with some code that looks through the pbp lines in games and picks up on key words to get advanced stats, maybe broaden the view on the Dar trophy. This may even cause people to differentiate their builds because I do think we are in a time where point production may be heavily biased. Just because our version doesn't automatically track takeaways/giveaways, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen in the games.