Quote:Originally posted by ztevans@Jan 24 2018, 06:35 PM


It's always about you, though, don't back down now.

I had small hopes for being nommed but really didn't believe I'd get it. There were lots of good options that were better than me. Bearss wasn't one of them.

Quote:To answer to your fixation on hits, Bearss, unlike Kurczewski and Redding and 90% of the players in the league, actually shared a line with hitters. Just like you said +/- can be affected, so is hitting in Simon T. Joe and Ace were both winged by 40 checkers, while Bearss was 63 checking to Volkova's 70+ (it changed throughout the season).

So Bearss let his linemates do the work while he coasted, is what you're saying? A 2 way player - or more accurately - a 200 foot player. That means going in on the forecheck (hitting), and coming back on the back check (hitting). Especially for a winger, he should be leading the forecheck, instead he just kind of hangs on the perimeter. In any given game there was about 1 thing Bearss would do defensively. He'd get 1 hit a game and about a 50% chance of getting a shot block, and lose a few faceoffs.

Quote:Add in, again, 24 shot blocks, just to really drive that point home, on a team that didn't give up a ton of shots, and the 64 points (it is two-way forward, not strictly defensive forward which differentiates it from the Selke) and I don't think it's really as bad as you make it out to be

Drive home the point that there were multiple other forwards with 20+ SB. Why weren't they nommed? Selke is also about 2 way forwards, it takes into account points - always does - but it also realizes that that's a lesser stat in this category. Lundberg only had 42 points. Points isn't the end all be all and just because someone had a lot shouldn't put them in consideration for this award alone. A lot of points is good but it's more important to also have good stats in the defensive categories.

For the record, some history on the Selke:
- Last time a winger won was 02/03 (Jere Lehtinen)
- Last time someone with more than 1 PPG won was 2008/09 (Pavel Datsyuk)
-Toews had exactly PPG in the lockout shortened season.
- Of the 39 times awarded, a winger has won 11 times (including the first 4)
- Kris Draper in 2003/04 was the last time a player won with less than 50 points (not counting the lockout shortened season)

They care about points, it's why 3rd and 4th line PK specialists don't win. But it's about playing both ends of the ice, and largely about taking possession from the other team. Faceoffs, takeaways, etc.


I get it, he's your teammate. But we have basically every other award for rewarding points. We have all star teams to award points. He got this nom on points, and playing for the "hot" team right now. It's why Volkova is a 1st team all star and Visser made the teams over Eriksson or Otto.