I didn't see Jaromir Jagr on any of your lists.

 

Originally posted by JayTee@Nov 30 2015, 10:57 PM


I would concede West and Robertson.


But those other 3.

Lawd have mercy

The only argument you could make for LeBron not being better than Kobe would be if LeBron suffered a career ending injury tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Baelor Swift@Dec 1 2015, 04:08 AM

The only argument you could make for LeBron not being better than Kobe would be if LeBron suffered a career ending injury tomorrow.

Yep. Still as of now, Kobe has achieved more over the course of his career I'd argue.

When I was a lil boy Kobe was love and life, and the Lakers were on top of the NBA. RIP sweet prince. Ye shall be missed.

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Originally posted by stevo@Nov 30 2015, 11:23 PM

Yep. Still as of now, Kobe has achieved over the course of his career I'd argue.

Championships: Kobe 5, LeBron 2
Finals MVP: Kobe 2, LeBron 2
MVP: Kobe 1, LeBron 4
All-Star: Kobe 17, LeBron 11
All-NBA First Team: Kobe 11, LeBron 9
Points: Kobe 32,683, LeBron 25,349
Assists: Kobe 6166, LeBron 6413
Steals: Kobe 1895, LeBron 1575
Rebounds: Kobe 6853, LeBron 6630
Field Goal %: Kobe .450, LeBron .496
Career VORP (Value over Replacement Player): Kobe 71.9, LeBron 102.6
Playoff VORP: Kobe 14.0, LeBron 23.7
Offensive Win Shares: Kobe 122.2, LeBron 126.7
Playoff OWS: Kobe 21.0, LeBron 24.5
Defensive Win Shares: Kobe 50.2, LeBron 55.3
Playoff DWS: Kobe 7.3, LeBron 12.4
Best Player Played With: Kobe - Shaq, LeBron - DWade?

And Kobe has 7 seasons, 371 regular season games, and 42 playoff games on LeBron. I would say even if both ended their careers today, you could easily make a case for LeBron having the better career.

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Originally posted by Baelor Swift@Nov 30 2015, 07:08 PM

The only argument you could make for LeBron not being better than Kobe would be if LeBron suffered a career ending injury tomorrow.

Well and more rings, more points and all that.


But ya just if Lebron suffered a career injury.


LeBron isn't ahead of Kobe yet.

Originally posted by JayTee@Nov 30 2015, 11:35 PM


Well and more rings, more points and all that.


But ya just if Lebron suffered a career injury.


LeBron isn't ahead of Kobe yet.

See above. It's basically more points and championships and all star appearances and that's the extent of Kobe's edge.

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More points and more rings hahaha same old shit. LeBron will get there with the points part, and a player can only do so much to get a ring. Kobe was blessed with Shaq, Shaq was blessed with Kobe. LeBron never got that after he left Cleveland.

Originally posted by Baelor Swift@Nov 30 2015, 07:41 PM

See above. It's basically more points and championships and all star appearances and that's the extent of Kobe's edge.

And when those numbers are so much higher than LBJs are, you deserve to be higher.

Originally posted by easymoneysniper@Nov 30 2015, 10:47 PM
More points and more rings hahaha same old shit. LeBron will get there with the points part, and a player can only do so much to get a ring. Kobe was blessed with Shaq, Shaq was blessed with Kobe. LeBron never got that after he left Cleveland.

I mean LeBron had D Wade and Bosh lol. Granted not prime Wade tho

RIPDAVE

Originally posted by JayTee@Nov 30 2015, 10:49 PM


And when those numbers are so much higher than LBJs are, you deserve to be higher.

LeBron should pass in points and if he plays long enough, ASG's. Curry runs the NBA now tho so prob won't get close to 5 ships

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Originally posted by JayTee@Nov 30 2015, 11:49 PM


And when those numbers are so much higher than LBJs are, you deserve to be higher.

A+ argument =D>

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Originally posted by JayTee@Nov 30 2015, 10:35 PM


Well and more rings, more points and all that.


But ya just if Lebron suffered a career injury.


LeBron isn't ahead of Kobe yet.

you're an MVPs over rings guy tho, aren't you?

Originally posted by Trill@Nov 30 2015, 10:50 PM


I mean LeBron had D Wade and Bosh lol. Granted not prime Wade tho

I mean Wade/Bosh should be blamed for the loss against Spurs, they didn't do shit

Originally posted by Shevy Shev@Nov 30 2015, 07:53 PM

you're an MVPs over rings guy tho, aren't you?

What. I just said Kobe has more rings and should be higher.