Decided by myself and <a href='index.php?showuser=12' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-4'>Leafs4ever</a>

Official decision: The correct punishment has been applied to Buffalo, aside from one area. The 1st round pick should not be up to them as for when it is forfeited. As this is a punishment, their first available 1st round pick should be forfeited. This means that the S34 1st held by Buffalo is FORFEITED.

*CORRECTION: Pick year was wrong initially. The forfeited pick is in S34, which is the 7th overall pick.

Reasoning: In reading the appeal, it is our opinion that the decision reached by the head office is just and fair. Though the rulebook does not mention such nuance, it is clear that the infraction committed by Buffalo has one mitigating factor that makes it clear this is not a typical tampering case. This being that ThatDamnWalrus demonstrated due diligence in clarifying whether or not Laing could be contacted by an opposing GM. The information he received from RomanesEuntDomus was incorrect. By contacting a member of the head office, who should have known the rule, ThatDamnWalrus could have felt assured that he was not tampering. Thus, as it was not in the full spirit of the tampering rule, which seeks to punish teams trying to knowingly circumvent free agency, Buffalo should not face the full extent of the punishment.

However, it is clear that tampering did still occur. While Portland had already agreed to buy out Laing and Buffalo had no intention to sign him, it is not permissible to contact an upcoming free agent. The announcement posted by Wally, presently, does not have any ambiguity in its language and is clear that Laing remained on Portland until the free agent period. Though the thread was moved to completed transactions, the placement of the thread has no bearing in how clear or unclear the message posted by Wally was. Additionally, the rule on compliance buyouts - regardless of whether it was quoted in the thread or not - is posted for all to see in the rulebook. Had ThatDamnWalrus consulted the rulebook, he would have seen the rule being quite clear that compliance buyouts can only be performed in the offseason. Thus, fault certainly lies with Portland to some degree for posting the transaction early. However, this does not clear Buffalo in this instance. While the compliance buyout is an unusual transaction in the SHL, tampering has always been seen as contacting a forthcoming free agent regarding contract demands or joining the offending side's team. While the compliance buyout may cause some confusion due to its rarity, ThatDamnWalrus should have known that contacting Laing before the free agent period is against the rules and would be punished as tampering.

Defined as "approaching a player under contract with another team outside of the public forums, with the purpose of persuading them to join your team", tampering could be argued to have not occurred. ThatDamnWalrus has argued that there was no intent to sign Laing and evidence submitted by both he and RomanesEuntDomus from the team's discord server make it clear, in areas, that there was no intention to sign Laing. Through contacting him and querying as to his asking price, the Stampede hoped to determine which teams could actually afford him. From a competitive standpoint, this is logical. However, by contacting him and asking for a salary price, Buffalo sought to create a competitive advantage over other SHL teams and had the intent of having inside and advanced information regarding the pending free agency of a player. Thus, while there was not an intent to persuade Laing to join Buffalo, there was intent to benefit from the knowledge of how much Laing intended to ask for. Thus, while some lee-way is offered from the standard tampering punishment for not being completely to the letter of the law and the result of misinformation by a head office member, the lack of understanding and ignorance of the rules demonstrated by ThatDamnWalrus do not fully exonerate he or his team. While the rule may read that there must be intent to sign, prior precedent and the application of the rule both demonstrate that the mere act of contacting a free agent regarding their impending free agency or trying to gain a competitive advantage by doing so is in fact tampering.

Thank you.

Still disagree. It is the person in HO's fault only.

If a GM gets approval to do something from HO, they should no longer have to accept responsibility. RED should have been removed from HO and BUF should have been left alone.

(Thanks to Tweedle, Dion.OvOxO., & Kylrad)

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Shouldn't be S34 1st = FORFEITED not S35 since that's their first available 1st round pick

Originally posted by ThatDamnMcJesus@Apr 1 2017, 04:38 PM
Shouldn't be S34 1st = FORFEITED not S35 since that's their first available 1st round pick

<a href='index.php?showuser=3' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-50'>Spangle</a>

Originally posted by ThatDamnMcJesus@Apr 1 2017, 04:38 PM
Shouldn't be S34 1st = FORFEITED not S35 since that's their first available 1st round pick

Oh I'm a fucking idiot.

Yes, thank you. Their pick is forfeited (i.e. the 7th overall pick).

Originally posted by Spangle@Apr 1 2017, 04:53 PM


Oh I'm a fucking idiot.

#NOTMYHO RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

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Zach Evans || Forward || Winnipeg Jets
Name: Zach Evans
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 195 lbs
Number: 18
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SHL Career Statistics:
S32 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 5, P: 14, +/-: -1, PIMS: 12, H: 59
S33 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 8, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 3, PIMS: 49, H: 106
S34 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 14, P: 28, +/-: 7, PIMS: 46, H: 96
S35 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 26, P: 48, +/-: -4, PIMS: 23, H: 113
S36 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 28, A: 30, P: 58, +/-: 23, PIMS: 51, H: 140
S37 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 24, A: 27, P: 51, +/-: 2, PIMS: 36, H: 220
S38 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27. A: 38, P: 65, +/-: 12, PIMS: 45, H: 158
S39 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 32, P: 47, +/-: 11, PIMS: 43, H: 85
S40 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 22, A: 31, P: 53, +/-: 11, PIMS: 15, H: 49
S41 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 27, A: 35, P: 62, +/-: 26, PIMS: 34, H: 82
S42 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: -3, PIMS: 15, H: 6
S43 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 29, P: 45, +/-: 11, PIMS: 27, H: 15
S44 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 14, A: 31, P: 45, +/-: 3, PIMS: 17, H: 17
S45 (WPG): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 34, P: 49, +/-: 4, PIMS: 2, H: 27
CAREER: GP: 700, G: 257, A: 376, P: 633, +/-: 105, PIMS: 415, H: 1,173
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S34 (WPG): GP: 5, G: 2, A: 1, P: 3, +/-: 0, PIMS: 4, H: 7
S36 (WPG): GP: 6, G: 0, A: 3, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 16
S37 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 11, A: 14, P: 25, +/-: 19, PIMS: 12, H: 81
S38 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 6, A: 9, P: 15, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 32
S39 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 6, P: 11, +/-: -2, PIMS: 6, H: 31
S40 (WPG): GP: 14, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 1, PIMS: 13, H: 7
S41 (WPG): GP: 13, G: 8, A: 6, P: 14, +/-: 3, PIMS: 9, H: 26
S43 (WPG): GP: 17, G: 4, A: 9, P: 13, +/-: 11, PIMS: 2, H: 4
S44 (WPG): GP: 18, G: 4, A: 15, P: 19, +/-: 7, PIMS: 0, H: 3
S45 (WPG): GP: 4, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 2
CAREER: GP: 121, G: 46, A: 69, P: 115, +/-: 41, PIMS: 50, H: 209
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S30 (DET): GP: 50, G: 16, A: 12, P: 28, +/-: 8, PIMS: 10, H: 44
S31 (DET): GP: 50, G: 15, A: 23, P: 38, +/-: -2, PIMS: 35, H: 84
CAREER: GP: 100, G: 31, A: 35, P: 66, +/-: 6, PIMS: 45, H: 128
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S30 (DET): GP: 5, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 2, H: 0
S31 (DET): GP: 13, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 3, PIMS: 0, H: 9
CAREER: GP: 18, G: 5, A: 8, P: 13, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 9
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IIHF Statistics (Russia):
S30: GP: 11, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, PIMS: 0, H: 7
S32: GP: 13, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: -4, PIMS: 4, H: 17
S33: GP: 11, G: 3, A: 6, P: 9, +/-: 5, PIMS: 4, H: 12
S34: GP: 11, G: 6, A: 2, P: 8, +/-: 2, PIMS: 2, H: 10
S35: GP: 13, G: 5, A: 4, P: 9, +/-: 4, PIMS: 18, H: 22
S36: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 3, P: 7, +/-: -3, PIMS: 2, H: 5
S37: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 1, P: 2, +/-: 0, PIMS: 0, H: 8
S38: GP: 13, G: 3, A: 10, P: 13, +/-: 8, PIMS: 4, H: 5
S39: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 2, H: 11
S40: GP: 10, G: 1, A: 2, P: 3, +/-: -6, PIMS: 2, H: 8
S41: GP: 11, G: 4, A: 5, P: 9, +/-: 0, PIMS: 2, H: 7
S42: GP: 10, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/-: 5, PIMS: 0, H: 1
S43: GP: 13, G: 4, A: 7, P: 11, +/-: 6, PIMS: 0, H: 0
S44: GP: 10, G: 4, A: 8, P: 12, +/-: 1, PIMS: 0, H: 0
S45: GP: 10, G: 6, A: 1, P: 7, +/-: -13, PIMS: 0, H: 2
CAREER: GP: 167 G: 54, A: 65, P: 119, +/-: 5, PIMS: 40, H: 105
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 25th overall by Detroit, S30 SMJHL Entry Draft
S30 Vyacheslav Onoprienko Trophy Winner
Drafted 5th overall by Winnipeg, S31 SHL Entry Draft
S32 Oriens Trophy Winner (Co-GM, Detroit)
S32 IIHF Bronze Medalist
S36 SHL Second-Team All-Star
S37 Challenge Cup Champion
S38 Sergei Karpotsov Trophy Winner
S38 SHL First-Team All-Star
S38 Sarmad Khan Trophy Winner
S38 Jeff Dar Trophy Winner
S38 Damian Littleton Trophy Winner
S38 IIHF Gold Medalist
S43 IIHF Silver Medalist
S44 Challenge Cup Champion
Inducted into SHL Hall of Fame, S47
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Nikolai Evans || Defenseman || HAM/TBB/TEX
Name: Nikolai Evans
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 210 lbs
Number: 19
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SHL Career Statistics:
S47 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 1, A: 10, P: 11, +/-: -4, SB: 39, H: 32
S48 (HAM): GP: 50, G: 5, A: 9, P: 14, +/1: 6, SB: 57, H: 37
S49 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 9, A: 14, P: 23, +/-: -22, SB: 78, H: 51
S50 (TBB): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: 4, SB: 64, H: 39
CAREER: GP: 200, G: 22, A: 53, P: 75, +/-: -16, SB: 238, H: 159
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SHL Playoff Statistics:
S48 (HAM): GP: 5, G: 1, A: 0, P: 1, +/-: -1, SB: 6, H: 3
S49 (TBB): GP: 12, G: 0, A: 5, P: 5, +/-: 0, SB: 20, H: 8
S50 (TBB): GP: 19, G: 5, A: 7, P: 12, +/-: 1, SB: 29, H: 6
CAREER: GP: 36, G: 6, A: 12, P: 18, +/-: 0, SB: 55, H: 17
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S45 (MTL): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 13, P: 20, +/-: -1, SB: 60, H: 25
S46 (MTL/HFX): GP: 50, G: 7, A: 20, P: 27, +/-: -1, SB: 47, H: 68
CAREER: GP: 100, G: 14, A: 33, P: 47, +/-: -2, SB: 107, H: 93
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SMJHL Playoff Statistics:
S45 (MTL): GP: 6, G: 2, A: 3, P: 5, +/-: -1, SB: 7, H: 4
S46 (HFX): GP: 13, G: 3, A: 2, P: 5, +/-: -4, SB: 18, H: 14
CAREER: GP: 19, G: 5, A: 5, P: 10, +/-: -5, SB: 25, H: 18
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IIHF Statistics (Russia):
S45: GP: 10, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -5, SB: 12, H: 2
S46: GP: 12, G: 0, A: 1, P: 1, +/-: -2, SB: 11, H: 2
S47: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 7, P: 9, +/-: 2, SB: 17, H: 12
S48: GP: 12, G: 2, A: 4, P: 6, +/-: -6, SB: 22, H: 0
S49: GP: 15, G: 6, A: 6, P: 12, +/-: -6, SB: 25, H: 7
CAREER: GP: 61, G: 10, A: 19, P: 29, +/-: -17, SB: 87, H: 23
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WJC Statistics:
S44 (World): GP: 15, G: 6, A: 7, P: 13, +/-: 8, SB: 18, H: 13
S45 (Russia): GP: 22, G: 2, A: 10, P: 12, +/-: -13, SB: 33, H: 14
S46 (Russia): GP: 28, G: 9, A: 15, P: 23, +/-: 0, SB: 26, H: 14
CAREER: GP: 55, G: 17, A: 32, P: 48, +/-: -5, SB: 77, H: 41
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 1st overall by Montreal, S45 SMJHL Entry Draft
Drafted 1st overall by Hamilton, S46 SHL Entry Draft
Traded to Halifax Raiders during S46 SMJHL season
Traded to Tampa Bay Barracuda prior to S49 SHL season
S48 Fantasy Global Champion
S50 Mathias Chouinard Trophy Winner
I'll finish updating this at some point
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The Russian Prince

Zdenko Beranek || Winger || Quebec City Citadelles
Name: Zdenko Beranek
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 175 lbs
Number: 27
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SMJHL Career Statistics:
S55 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 6, A: 15, P: 21, +/-: -22, PIMS: 6
S56 (QCC): GP: 50, G: 10, A: 27, P: 37, +/-: 9, PIMS: 20
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Transactions and Awards:
Drafted 1st overall by Quebec City, S55 SMJHL Entry Draft
Drafted 18th overall by Seattle, S56 SHL Entry Draft
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Le Petite Chèvre

Is this the holocaust thread?

Originally posted by BeanSnoodie@Apr 1 2017, 03:19 PM
Is this the holocaust thread?

https://shlihfs33.firebaseapp.com/IIHF-21.html

Originally posted by BeanSnoodie@Apr 1 2017, 06:19 PM
Is this the holocaust thread?

lawl

... April Fools?

Still light, but whatever.

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would have been awesome if the verdict was that more punishment was neccessary :lol:

Originally posted by probablydrunk@Apr 1 2017, 07:22 PM
https://shlihfs33.firebaseapp.com/IIHF-21.html

Beauty

Worded very well... <a href='index.php?showuser=3' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-50'>Spangle</a> leaves little in question. Good job gents

Kyle Wahlters || General Manager || Toronto North Stars
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Career Statistics:
SHL
Portland Admirals AGM - S31 | 21-27-2 |
Portland Admirals GM - S32 | 7-40-3 |
Portland Admirals GM - S33 | 20-24-6 |
Portland Admirals GM - S34 | 30-16-4 | Western Conference Champion
Portland Admirals GM - S35 | 29-18-3 | Western Conference Champion
Calgary Dragons HC - S59 | 42-20-4 | Lost in Quarterfinals
Calgary Dragons HC - S60 | 38-21-7 | Lost in Western Conference Finals
Calgary Dragons HC - S61 | 34-26-6 | Lost in Quarterfinals
Calgary Dragons AGM - S62 | 36-23-7 | Lost in First Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S63 | 36-22-8 | Lost in First Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S64 | 19-43-4 | Lost in First Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S65 | 38-23-5 | Lost in First Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S66 | 38-26-2 | Lost in Second Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S67 | 47-16-3 | Lost in Second Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S68 | 46-16-4 | Lost in Second Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S69 | 13-50-3 | DNQ
Toronto North Stars GM - S70 | 6-57-3 | DNQ
Toronto North Stars GM - S71 | 10-56-0 | DNQ
Toronto North Stars GM - S72 | 14-48-4 | DNQ
Toronto North Stars GM - S73 | 22-39-5 | Lost in First Round
Toronto North Stars GM - S74 | 30-33-3 | Lost in First Round

SMJHL
Montreal Militia AGM - S45 | 29-19-2 | Lost in Quarterfinals
Montreal Militia AGM - S46 | 24-21-5 | Lost in Semi-Finals

IIHF
Austria GM - S57 | 3-8-1
Austria GM - S58 | 2-9-1
Austria GM - S59 | 1-9-2
Austria GM - S60 | 3-9-0
Austria GM - S61 | 5-7-0
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Awards:
S34 Lance Uppercut Award
S60 Coach of the Year Award
S61 Coach of the Year Award


Oleksander Olli O'Koivu || C || Regina Elk || Rookie

Name: Oleksander Olli O'Koivu
Age: 17
Birthplace: Netherlands
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Cale Amundsen || G || Calgary/Seattle || 1,298 TPE

Name: Cale Amundsen
Age: 21
Birthplace: Netherlands
IIHF Affiliation: Austria
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Career Statistics:
SHL Regular Season Totals:
S55 - 5 GP | 4-0-1 | 3 SO | .958 SV% | 0.59 GAA | 79 GR
S56 - 5 GP | 3-2-0 | 1 SO | .914 SV% | 1.81 GAA | 70 GR
S57 - 20 GP | 15-2-0 | 3 SO | .924 SV% | 1.51 GAA | 67 GR
S58 - 18 GP | 15-2-0 | 1 SO | .927 SV% | 1.72 GAA | 74 GR
S59 - 24 GP | 18-5-1 | 1 SO | .906 SV% | 2.61 GAA | 69 GR
S60 - 29 GP | 15-10-3 | 2 SO | .921 SV% | 2.81 GAA | 79 GR
S61 - 50 GP | 26-19-4 | 2 SO | .919 SV% | 2.86 GAA | 77 GR
S62 - 47 GP | 24-15-5 | 2 SO | .918 SV% | 3.26 GAA | 76 GR

SHL Playoff Totals:
S60 - 11 GP | 5-4-1 | 1 SO | .930 SV% | 2.75 GAA | 81 GR
S61 - 10 GP | 5-3-2 | 1 SO | .931 SV% | 2.38 GAA | 82 GR
S62 - 7 GP | 3-3-1 | 0 SO | .911 SV% | 3.78 GAA | 78 GR

SMJHL Regular Season Totals:
S53 - 43 GP | 21-17-4 | 5 SO | .919 SV% | 2.68 GAA | 74 GR
S54 - 41 GP | 28-10-3 | 5 SO | .911 SV% | 2.31 GAA | 69 GR
S55 - 40 GP | 26-8-5 | 6 SO | .917 SV% | 2.06 GAA | 69 GR
S56 - 42 GP | 25-14-3 | 7 SO | .914 SV% | 2.45 GAA | 70 GR
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Awards:
S53 SMJHL 1st Team
S53 SMJHL All-Rookie Team
S53 SMJHL Esa Anrikkanen Trophy
S53 SMJHL Tom Corcoran Trophy
S54 SMJHL East All-Star
S54 SMJHL Tom Corcoran Nominee
S55 SMJHL East All-Star
S55 SMJHL King-Kurczewski Gauntlet
S55 Four Star Cup Championship
S56 SMJHL East All-Star
S56 SMJHL 2nd Team
S56 SMJHL King-Kurczewski Gauntlet
S56 Playoff MVP Nominee
S56 SMJHL Tom Corcoran Trophey
S60 Newfoundland Berserker Hall of Fame Inductee
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Transactions:
S53 Drafted #13 OA by the Newfoundland Berserkers
S54 Drafted #23 OA by the Chicago Syndacite
S54 Traded to the Calgary Dragons
S54 Signed a 3yr/$7.5m contract
S56 Signed a 3 yr/$9m contract extension

Olli O'Koivu || G || POR/MIN Retired || S39 Cup Champion

Name: Olli O'Koivu
Age: 31
Birthplace: Finland (Played for Ireland)
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Career Statistics:
SHL Regular Season Totals:
269 GP | 146-89-34 | 20 SO | .910 SV% | 2.75 GAA
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Awards:
S33 All-Rookie Team
S34 Cole Reinhart Trophy
S35 Mike Honcho Trophy
S35 John McBride Trophy
S35 Aiden Richan Trophy
S35 1st Team All-Star
S35 Cole Reinhart Trophy
S37 IIHF Silver Medal
S38 2nd Team All-Star
S38 John McBride Nominee
S38 Ron Mexico Nominee
S39 2nd Team All-Star
S39 John McBride Nominee
S39 Mathias Chouinard Trophy
S39 Challenge Cup
S39 IIHF Bronze Medal
S39 IIHF Top Goalie
S40 Mathias Chouinard Trophy
S41 IIHF Bronze Medal
S41 IIHF Top Goalie
S42 Damian Littleton Nominee

Aleksi O'Koivu-Volkova || G || HAM/CAL Retired || S50 Cup Champion

Name: Aleksi O'Koivu-Volkova
Age: 17
Birthplace: Russia
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S50 Challenge Cup
S51 Bronze IIHF

Is TDW leaving now??