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RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Boomcheck - 04-18-2019

Doesn't CF% take into account shots for? An offensive stat?


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - GeckoeyGecko - 04-18-2019

what the fuck im not terrible?


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - GeckoeyGecko - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:33 PMGeckoeyGecko Wrote: what the fuck im not terrible?

I'm also supposed to be an offensive dman lmao


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Baelor Swift - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:24 PMBoomcheck Wrote: Doesn't CF% take into account shots for? An offensive stat?

It takes into account shots for and shots against. Shots for is a way to contextualize shots against and is a measure of possession, which involves both offense and defense. However, in what I posted, I set the bar quite low - 50%. Meaning any player whose team faced more shots against that shots for while said player was on the ice was eliminated.


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Boomcheck - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:35 PMBaelor Swift Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:24 PMBoomcheck Wrote: Doesn't CF% take into account shots for? An offensive stat?

It takes into account shots for and shots against. Shots for is a way to contextualize shots against and is a measure of possession, which involves both offense and defense. However, in what I posted, I set the bar quite low - 50%. Meaning any player whose team faced more shots against that shots for while said player was on the ice was eliminated.

What if they just have an abysmal offense?


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Baelor Swift - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:47 PMBoomcheck Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:35 PMBaelor Swift Wrote: It takes into account shots for and shots against. Shots for is a way to contextualize shots against and is a measure of possession, which involves both offense and defense. However, in what I posted, I set the bar quite low - 50%. Meaning any player whose team faced more shots against that shots for while said player was on the ice was eliminated.

What if they just have an abysmal offense?

I just checked for you and by removing the CF% qualifier completely, we add only two new dmen into the fold - Buck Maverick and Barrett McCarthy. So 12 instead of 10.


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Boomcheck - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:51 PMBaelor Swift Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:47 PMBoomcheck Wrote: What if they just have an abysmal offense?

I just checked for you and by removing the CF% qualifier completely, we add only two new dmen into the fold - Buck Maverick and Barrett McCarthy. So 12 instead of 10.

No, I mean. Is there a way in which we can check how few shots attempted against your team when you are on the ice compared to when you aren't? What's the metric for that?


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - awils13 - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 06:06 PMBoomcheck Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:51 PMBaelor Swift Wrote: I just checked for you and by removing the CF% qualifier completely, we add only two new dmen into the fold - Buck Maverick and Barrett McCarthy. So 12 instead of 10.

No, I mean. Is there a way in which we can check how few shots attempted against your team when you are on the ice compared to when you aren't? What's the metric for that?

You're describing relative corsi... which I haven't done yet. I'll try to add it next season.


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Keygan - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 05:18 PMBaelor Swift Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:16 PMKeygan Wrote: Where’s Koch Schroder though.

Literally says: "This leaves us with 10 defensemen who have a CF% of 50%+, 829+ steals, and a 1.2 or greater TA/GA ratio."

If a player is not there, they did not meet this criteria

I was moreso sarcastically asking how he got nominated if advanced stats of every defensive metric say he's not even top 10.


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Boomcheck - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 06:09 PMaaronwilson Wrote:
04-18-2019, 06:06 PMBoomcheck Wrote: No, I mean. Is there a way in which we can check how few shots attempted against your team when you are on the ice compared to when you aren't? What's the metric for that?

You're describing relative corsi... which I haven't done yet. I'll try to add it next season.

appreciated fam


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - Baelor Swift - 04-18-2019

04-18-2019, 06:11 PMKeygan Wrote:
04-18-2019, 05:18 PMBaelor Swift Wrote: Literally says: "This leaves us with 10 defensemen who have a CF% of 50%+, 829+ steals, and a 1.2 or greater TA/GA ratio."

If a player is not there, they did not meet this criteria

I was moreso sarcastically asking how he got nominated if advanced stats of every defensive metric say he's not even top 10.

Ahhh I get you. Yeah I was surprised that he was a nominee, honestly.


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - daBenchwarmer - 04-18-2019

i jerk off to poopity scoop highlight tapes

i mean

uh

scoop's a really good d-man


RE: Top Defensive Defenseman? - WannabeFinn - 04-18-2019

should've gone to GOD