S56 PT #4 - HOF Snub

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S56 PT #4 - HOF Snub

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#91

10-21-2020, 06:28 PM

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#92

10-21-2020, 07:13 PM

Crazy to see that Alex Light will be making it to his fifth ballot. Though he has been nominated and still has time to make it in, its very interesting for him to have to wait this long. Light is 32nd all time in points. Just 22nd all time in goals. He did this all very efficiently, in just 18 seasons compared to the 20+ of many of those around him. What's probably hurting him is the lack of individual hardware. He has just one Razov nomination, and 2 3rd team all-star mentions. But this should be easy to ignore when you realize he lead his team, West Kendall Platoon, to 3 challenge cups. Light was the heart and soul of West Kendall, playing his entire SHL career there and doing exactly what he set out to. I think fans and players of the now Baltimore Platoon would be very happy to see him entered in.

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#93

10-21-2020, 09:48 PM

I see a lot of big names making it in the Hall of Fame in the next couple of seasons that aren’t quite eligible just yet such as Robert Phelps and Joe Kurczewski. One skater that I expect to get in soon that is eligible is Alex Light. Alex Light has had an impressive career with 726 points in 900 games which is very comparable to a lot the top forwards currently in the Hall of Fame. For goalies I think Beaujeux Biscuit is going to get in soon though I am surprised Mikke Laukkanen didn’t get into the hall of fame. Laukkanen’s stats are very comparable to a lot of the top goalies on the hall of fame. On the other hand I understand it is kind of hard to judge players who are in the hall of fame that might not be as deserving. Back in the earlier seasons of the league sim engines were different as well as update scales and career lengths which are all factors that are hard to weigh against how the league is today.

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#94

10-21-2020, 11:00 PM

For me, Patrikov Bure stands out as a clear Hall of Fame status player. He played in relatively early seasons, and is possibly hurt by the fact that he played for 18 seasons – but there are many players who are less successful than he that played for an equal or greater number of seasons with less statistical dominance. Indeed, Bure totaled 641 points and managed an impressive +81 plus-minus – significantly better than several players listed “above” him – and managed over 1,400 hits while only suffering 414 penalty minutes – significantly less than many of those listed above and below him, including most inducted hall of famers – while scoring more points than all of those listed below. He also has a staggering 53 game-winning goals – the most out of nearly everyone aside from the top 15ish point scorers of all time – and did so while averaging just under 21 minutes per game. He wasn’t given as much time on the ice compared to some of his higher – and many lower – HoF scoring peers and thus deserves further consideration unless his trophy case simple pales in comparison. Even then, he may have an argument.

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#95

10-21-2020, 11:05 PM

Noro Wozy is the player that has the highest points per game that is not in the Hall of Fame. He finished a respectable 14 seasons in the league, exceeding many other members of the Hall of Fame. While this is not the most amount of games played, it is still a considerable amount and he has proven that he was very efficient in these seasons. His 581 points rank 80th all time which is another commendable stat. Similar to a Mike Bossy style career where it was not the longest but one of the most efficient, this is the main strength for his case to get in the Hall of Fame. With a PPG stat of .895 P/G, this is good for 38th all time. Considering the player just below him, Dani Forsberg, is in the Hall of Fame with similar statistics PPG wise so there is precedent that would indicate that Noro Wozy has a decent shot of being inducted to the Hall of Fame.

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#96

10-22-2020, 04:45 AM

I would pick Matthew Auston and placed him inside hall of fame. He was one game short of 800 games played (clocking average over 19 minutes per game) and collected very decent 576 points (265 goals + 311 assists), his shooting percent was above 11% What is quite fascinating is his 49 game winning goals (over 18% of all his goals). He contributed a lot on powerplays with 113 points (46 goals and 67 assists). Cherry on top of his cake are two shorthanded goals. +/- of +55 shows that his lines were contributing to his team(s) wins a lot. 192 penalty minutes (with decent 531 hits) show that he played disciplined and clean game and avoiding dirty moves against his opponents.
I don't know for which team(s) he played and how successful those team(s) were. Also I don't know if Matthew won any award during his career. Bad team performance and lack of personal awards might be cause that he isn't in HOF.

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#97

10-22-2020, 07:10 AM

10-21-2020, 11:40 AMJSS Wrote:
10-21-2020, 09:09 AMSlappydoodle Wrote: It’s the kind of thinking that says James Harden is the rightful MVP, though he plays no defense, hogs the ball and never wins it all regardless of playing with a myriad of other superstars .

This is just false info. Harden and the Rockets were the only team in the West to even come close to beating the Warriors superteams those couple of years. Remove those Warrior teams and Harden probably has a ring or two.

And had there been no 90's Bulls, Patrick Ewing could have won a few. That's not how it worked out though as much as I wish it had

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#98

10-22-2020, 07:12 AM

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#99

10-22-2020, 08:36 AM

I have to admit I haven't been following a lot of careers since I joined the SHL but what I did follow were my teammates and I'm going to be a homer on this one.

Slappy McDoodle deserved a place in the HoF. Not winning the Challenge Cup probably killed his chances and not winning any individual awards too but over a 16 season career - spent entirely with the West Kendall Platoon - Slappy did everything he could for the team to succeed, often sacrificing what would help him be a better individual player. It's easy for all of us to make a deadly sniper but to choose to help the team physically and defensively is something else.

He still had a very respectable total of 434 points in his career but it's mostly his two-way play that made him such a crucial player to the Platoon.

More than his statistics on the ice, Slappy was what you'd wish every one of your teammates were like and I wish players that had that "it factor" would be considered more for the HoF. I understand not everybody can get in the HoF so you need some guidelines but as someone who shared a LR with Slappy for many seasons, he's the guy I most wish would've been rewarded (that doesn't have a chance to get in anymore) for his loyalty and dedication.

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#100

10-22-2020, 09:28 AM

I feel my previous player Vladimir Lidstrom should have been considered for the Hall of fame. He played 16 seasons for the Texas renegades and is still their all time leader in blocked shots and is in their top 5 in scoring. When he retired Lidstrom was the 12 highest scoring defenseman of all time and was like 65th in all time SHL scoring. There were plenty of others in the Hall of fame with lesser stats. He was a cup winner also in S36 with Texas. Here's the rub. Because he played in an era with so many great defensemen, he was never able to win an award. And due to the political bs with awards and the absolute crap that to be a Hall of Famer you have to have awards to your name he never made it. In fact, I think it's an absolute disgrace that in the whole time he was eligible he never even garnered a single hof vote. All because he didn't win a political popularity contest and snag an award. Is what it is I guess, probably won't make it with the new player either.

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#101

10-22-2020, 09:57 AM

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#102

10-22-2020, 10:11 AM

Alright, this is a hard one to do since I know parctially no history about the SHL, but Luke's tool helped me find someone to talk about. I'm going to do the second option, which is to talk about someone who should not be in the Hall of Fame. The person I am choosing is Turd Ferguson.
While Turd's name is surely Hall of Fame worthy, I am not entirely convinced their stats are. Most of his stats are around around or under most of the other players from his era, with the exception of one, which I'll get to in a bit. There is one argument I could make to why he should be in the Hall of Fame, and that is this: We simply needed some earlier players from the beginnings of the league to start filling in the Hall of Fame spots. This is a valid argument, you do need to recognize some of the players that were crucial to start of this historic league. My counter-argument, however, is that the only real stat that stands out for Mr. Ferguson is his PIMs. Turd Ferguson has somewhere around 4 or 5 times the amount of PIM as his contemporaries. Why not instead induct Pavel Koradek? They are from the same draft class and have comparable numbers. Mr. Koradek even has more points, a +/- that is 12 better than Mr. Ferguson's, and only 1/4th the amount of penalty minutes.
I'm starting to think that part of the reason Turd Ferguson was inducted was because of their name...

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#103

10-22-2020, 11:28 AM

I believe that one person who should be in the hall of fame but isn’t is Logan Jensen. He has so many goals and assists in his time in the league and was part on the Texas Renegades team which was always a competitor every year. Man I love this player and he is one of the reasons that my player is the way he is, a great player on and off the ice. While he might not have been the goat I think his time in the league speaks for himself. I love him as a user too, this guys is one of the Reasons that the Simulation Hockey League is so great, and I’m sure there are others who feel the exact same way. Guys like Logan Jensen make us all wanna play better and come back every day to a league we love. He should be in the hall of fame and it’s a travesty that he is not in it.

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#104

10-22-2020, 11:44 AM

Lets talk about Ales Smirnov, now who is Ales Smirnov? Ales Smirnov is a S22 player, who played the majority of career for the West Kendall Platoon, while also holding a CoGM position. Ales Smirnov a RW by choice, was tasked with a tough decision early in has career. A season after being called up to the Platoon the idea was presented that it would be best for Ales to play defence for the better of the team. Without argument Smirnov made the switch and played 5 seasons at defence, while still being consider a winger by many of the scouts and voters. After his stint at defence Smirnov made the switch back to forward, however now being with playing Center. Once again, stepped in and filled the role for the team. Smirnov played through a rebuild with the Platoon which ultimately seen them fall short in the Challenge cup finals twice in game 7. After 14 seasons with WKP Smirnov had stops in both NEW and LAP, during this time he put up 3 point per games seasons, and even collected a Ron Mexico trophy with NEW. Smirnov ultimately returned to the team that drafted him to retire with the Platoon. Smirnov finished his career with 802 games and 599 points.

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