08-21-2018, 10:18 AMTML99 Wrote: Maybe I'm the only one but I actually enjoy going back and looking at my teammates PTs especially as a junior Gm. I often read them and definitely enjoy seeing all the graphics people make

I mean even guys in the LR will share their PTs because they think its funny or it was about the team and the want the guys to read them.

Out of curiosity what was the reason for this change? was their an issue that we are trying to correct?

" We feel by entering into the agreement with them that it will help members of both leagues join the SHL without the fear of having to do a ton of PTs between each league weekly."

Seriously dont join multiple leagues if you cant mage the work load... I'm so confused by this maybe its just my mentality "why do something if you're not going to 100% commit to it" I have joined multiple leagues over the years and gone inactive in almost all of them because I couldn't mange the word load to be good player. The solutions shouldn't be make it easier to be in more leagues by half assing the workload over 3 different leagues... I'm all for helping other leagues grow but not like this.

"We also feel it will help bring back members who went inactive here because of the large workload juggling so many leagues. "

This makes no sense if you couldn't juggle the work load before why are you joining more leagues to still do a PT you never did in the first place? Not like just doing the PT is going to make you any good you still need to train, write media, buy equipment guys aren't just magically going to start doing this because they can claim a PT from another league they had no time for in the first place...  


Overall id say there are some very good points being tossed around in here, nothing wrong with a good debate you're never going to get everyone to agree with something especially on the internet. Given my points I still believe in giving this a try like I stated before, I think its just important to get all thoughts and concerns out now so we can address them after a trial run.

Couldn't agree more, if you don't have time for more leagues then don't join more leagues. What's the problem with only being in one or two leagues if that's all the time you wanna committ, but in those leagues you actually contribute? If anything, joining more leagues than you can handle actually makes people burn out even quicker to the point where they might end up leaving sim leagues altogether. Like, as someone who has been here for a while, I have figured out that for my one personal schedule I can do about 1 "serious" (SHL, old-style VHL) and 2 casual leagues, or maybe 2 serious ones and no casual. Everything beyond that is just too much for me if I don't wanna end up severely dropping in activity somewhere. So I won't join any more leagues than that no matter what the incentives are and if I did, I certainly wouldn't end up being a contributing member in my new leagues, but just someone who claims the free stuff and rarely participates in any kind of discussion. And I'm sure most other people have similar limits, maybe not as clearly defined, but there only are so many leagues we can handle at once - not necessarily because of PTs, but also because of the small scale stuff, because of the plethora of Discord channels that come with it, and so on...

And yeah PTs can actually be fun, at least for the newer members and juniors in general, who get to see all this stuff for the first time. Most will grow tired of it eventually, but at least at the beginning they are actually a pretty fun aspect of the league for people who haven't experienced them yet. I for one am actually quite pleasantly surprised by the PTs I had to do so far this season. I hadn't done any with my previous player for quite a while and coming back to them now has actually been quite fun and not so work-intensive, and I have also enjoyed reading some from my new teammates, especially the rookies. I'd expect this to wear off rather quickly as the grind continues, but at least for a while and when starting out, PTs are usually not just a tedious chore but something that helps people settle into the community.