12-28-2018, 11:22 AMRomanesEuntDomus Wrote: Snipped, go read his dang post.

Pretty much sums up my feelings. I think the greater concern isn't how long in general players stay down, so much as how those expectations are expressed by GMs, both on the SHL and SMJHL side. Recently it's cut heavier on the send-down side, but there have definitely been cases both ways where a guy wasn't ready for the call, got rushed, and went inactive, because they felt pressured to go up. And there are definitely GMs on the J side who have tried a little too hard at times to talk players into staying down, and I'm sure there are SHL GMs who have encouraged the same when they could have called up an active young player for about 15 minutes per game on the third line but wanted to squeeze another season out of an inactive instead.

I think some of these mindsets showed themselves in the draft with the Argar situation, which is why I added to that. Should everyone be expected to spend just two seasons in juniors? No. But clearly some GMs felt it's reasonable to ask for three or more seasons out of a player, and that's a problem *if* they project that expectation on their entire team.

Tl;Dr This is a player driven league so work with the players and give them as much agency as possible. Obviously every team situation is different and so forth, but like try and don't be a dick and everything should work out.