05-29-2019, 09:44 PMtweedledunn Wrote:

05-29-2019, 04:44 PMWinter is Coming Wrote: Portland was a super toxic situation for awhile after that punishment though. To be fair, that was a more serious issue of tampering compared to this instance, as well.

grape took over quickly that same offseason (s36) and then won the president's trophy S38, the cap circumvention punishment (loss of all those firsts) + mass team retirement def delayed the rebuild tho

Another example: Rain tampered in like S32 and then Toronto won the cup in S35


Lots of people try to make it seem like teams can't endure punishments, as if enforcing the rulebook is somehow damning a franchise for all eternity. We honestly would've been fine if not for the mass retirement, but alas.