01-07-2020, 04:46 PMKeygan Wrote: @"TommySalami" your player sucks because passing sucks I don’t care if you led the league in points.

Kinda funny that Lokitonov and Pepperoni are both pass-first players, so the league top-scorers of the last three seasons were all players who according to the current hysteria should be useless. If you look at this years top-5, you will find two passers, two shooters with a relatively small gap and only one exploit player who ironically is one of the less extreme examples on his team and is a high-TPE player who was already good way before this whole thing was discovered. Just from this years regular season stats there is just no proof to the claim that Hamilton successfully broke the sim, be it in terms of individual numbers or team success. Having a good playoff-campaign doesn't change that.

01-07-2020, 10:24 PMSecondSucks22 Wrote:

01-07-2020, 01:13 PMjRuutu Wrote: I still cant understand why HAM (and other teams/players) were allowed to keep those builds, when you compare the two: 1) let them keep the builds OR 2) put couple updaters to revert their builds back to what they were = the second one feels a lot better?

Sure, some regression players and their builds were reverted, but looking at Hamiltons roster right now it looks pretty bad and everybody is now doing it or going to do it. 20 between SC and PA is not enough. Weird call to let it happen. More urgency and power to fight against certain words than something that can potentially even destroy the league.

Im not sure if this is posted later, as im reading back, but the hammy builds WERE reverted, we only really have a few players with a gap and in almost every case its not that extreme of a gap. I dont know how the notion of "hammy is still using this exploit" is going around.

Yeah no, that's just bullshit. You guys are still using this, you just were stopped from doing it in the most extreme way by the quick rule-change that happened last off-season - which is why I think another one of those quick adjustments, like setting a max gap of 15 or 20, would be another helpful and not overly complicated fix to the problem while we look for grander solutions. But reverting the build changes last off-season also probably already prevented some of the worst possible outcomes and gave us a good competitive season with only a small asterisk, we should give some kudos and acknowledge that instead of just talking about how STHS is doomed and how HAM broke everything.