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01-08-2020, 01:48 PMjRuutu Wrote:
01-08-2020, 01:39 PMJNH Wrote: That’s exactly my point, I don’t think they’re under a duty to tell him “you’ll never get hired”.  I say that mainly because I don’t think he’s explicitly blacklisted.  I just think that he’s continually being passed over for better candidates.  Is his past being factored in? Probably.  But I don’t think HO has to say they’ll never hire him because that’s more or less untrue.  They may hire him, but it’s hard when there’s fresh faces who also have the experience and tools for the GM job and don’t have his history of being dismissed (twice). 

Basically, I think the issue here is that McZ needs to realize that he had his chance and needs to do something more than re-applying to get a head GM spot back.  Whether that’s trying to get in at the ground floor by joining SMJHL management and working his way up or some other way, I’m not sure but what’s going on now isn’t working.  He’s applying based on experience in the league and as GM, but his management past isn’t exactly squeaky clean.  If I was HO, I’d need to see him successfully hold down a managerial position for a substantial period of time before even considering allowing him to take over control of a franchise that needs strong leadership right now.
When you look at the comments today for example, you get pretty good idea what is going on and it´s in my opinion fair to say McZ is blacklisted OR at very least many share the same view on McZ - he should not expect to get hired for GM job, which is pretty much as close to being blacklisted as possible. If and when that is the case - it´s absolutely the HO´s job to let him know what is going on, there are people who still care about SHL, it´s only fair in my opinion to handle it like a professional on the leagues side and stop taking McZ for a ride around if it´s 100% sure he is not getting the GM jobs, honestly cant understand why so many don´t see that as bullying. McZ is a good dude, stop hanging on to something that happened 5-7 years ago.

The times we are at in SHL right now is pretty much perfect time to let McZ have a go and see how it goes, is it not? The problem with proving yourself is pretty hard if nobody is hiring you in the first place, if you think about it the options are pretty limited, it´s been years without any problems. McZ throwing some rookie center to 2nd line and taking the 1st line center role himself is not one of them.

You keep saying its 100% sure he’s not getting the job and I’m saying that’s not true. I believe he always has a chance, but it’s never good enough. Sure HO could say something, but isn’t McZ equally responsible to reach out and be like “Hey, how can I improve my app for next time?” or “Hey, what steps do I need to take to make myself a better candidate?”.

I don’t like this argument that “the times in the SHL right now” mean it’s okay to take a chance on a wild card. The SHL is at one of its most active points, regardless of sim engine controversy. We’re on the brink of a reddit draft next season, which will bring an influx of new members. If anything, it’s more important now than ever to have someone in Minnesota who HO can be sure will steer the ship in the right direction.

And as to the point of no one hiring McZ, if he was as qualified as you say he is, you have to think someone in the SMJHL would bring him on. It’s not that hard to form relationships with those in management in the SMJHL and work with them. This is about McZ needing to be proactive to fix his image. He can’t sit back, keep living his SHL career, doing what he wants while expecting time to fix his mistakes.

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Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 06:58 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by C9Van - 01-08-2020, 07:36 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by drodger91 - 01-08-2020, 08:00 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by WannabeFinn - 01-08-2020, 08:54 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by Avakael - 01-08-2020, 09:20 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:01 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by Grapehead - 01-08-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:20 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 10:24 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 10:28 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:31 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 10:34 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 10:06 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by bluesfan55 - 01-08-2020, 10:16 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:22 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by bluesfan55 - 01-08-2020, 10:24 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by Segi - 01-08-2020, 10:33 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:51 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 01:39 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 01:48 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by Acsolap - 01-08-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by JNH - 01-08-2020, 01:57 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by bluesfan55 - 01-08-2020, 10:43 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 10:52 AM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by Baelor Swift - 01-08-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by WannabeFinn - 01-08-2020, 12:54 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 01:40 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 01:49 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by efiug - 01-08-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 05:14 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 05:18 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 05:22 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by jRuutu - 01-08-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 05:46 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by luke - 01-08-2020, 05:47 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by golden_apricot - 01-08-2020, 05:51 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 05:55 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by golden_apricot - 01-08-2020, 05:58 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by mxman991 - 01-08-2020, 06:12 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by ml002 - 01-08-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Hissing in the grass - by The__Y-man__100 - 01-08-2020, 02:15 PM



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