04-17-2021, 09:59 AM reid Wrote: 04-17-2021, 09:16 AM Capt_Blitzkrieg Wrote: I'm sorry, what ? Please clarify?
Further, it was my understanding that extensions and renewals are different contracts. That's why things like bonuses, HTDs, and different TPE tiers can be applied to extensions and renewals in the first place.
If they were truly the same contract regardless of renewals and extensions, then any such modifications would arguably be illegal. The only way to increase contracts or have bonuses would be at signing with a new team in free agency.
The rule clarification is fine. The justification given for punishment is on a Tacoma Narrows Bridge level of structural integrity. There seems to be some inconsistency in definition of what a contract extension is, versus the original, versus a renewal. Further, there have been some liberties taken with what constitutes modifying a contract.
The punishment as stated in the original post was levied for modifying an existing contract. There's nothing in the rulebook that indicates that contracting and paying out a bonus through extension, based on performance during a season under contract before the extension, is modifying the original contract in any way. If I'm wrong, please kindly point me to the piece that I'm missing here. Blitz you are taking the first part of what DT said completely out of context, seeing that phrase and ignoring the rest of the sentence. What he said was:
Quote: ... and the argument that an extension is the same contract and so something could be applied based on the previous season's activities before the extension started is actually not valid .
so you are making the exact same argument HO is making. Extensions and renewals are not the same contract as their current. In this example, Dex and honkers S56-57 extensions were not the same contract as their S55. That is all teddy is saying.
That is the crux of the misunderstanding which caused this punishment. The contract bonuses cannot legally be paid out on S56 cap, as the clause is tied to the S56 season (on a new and different contract ) and by the rule book, has to be paid out and accounted for in S57.
you can’t activate a clause that is not in your current contract. That’s about as simple as I can boil it down
Hey Reid, thank you for taking the time to help boil it down. It makes it easier to understand for people like me
Brooklyn Physt || LD/RD || Colorado Raptors
Height: 5'11" || Weight: 162lbs
Number: 7
Birthplace: New Orleans, US of A
August Von Hecht || G || Tampa Bay Barracuda
Height: 5'8" || Weight: 179lbs
Number: 89
Birthplace: Frankfurt, Germany
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SMJHL Season Career Statistics
S66: ANC GP: 62 W: 29 L: 25 OTL: 5 SO: 1 GAA: 3.30 SV%: .895%
S67: ANC GP: 58 W: 29 L: 20 OTL: 7 SO: 3 GAA: 2.86 SV%: .902%
S68: ANC GP: 56 W: 30 L: 21 OTL: 5 SO: 4 GAA: 3.02 SV%: .893%
S69: ANC GP: 33 W: 14 L: 14 OTL: 1 SO: 4 GAA: 2.97 SV%: .884%
TOT: ANC GP: 209 W: 102 L: 80 OTL: 18 SO: 12 GAA: 3.05 SV%: .895%
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SMJHL Playoff Career Statistics
S66: ANC GP: 6 W: 2 L: 3 OTL: 1 SO: 0 GAA: 2.85 SV%: 0.906%
S67: ANC GP: 5 W: 1 L: 2 OTL: 1 SO: 0 GAA: 4.36 SV%: .863%
S68: ANC GP: 10 W: 5 L: 3 OTL: 2 SO: 0 GAA: 2.77 SV%: .884%
S69: ANC GP: 8 W: 3. L: 3 OTL: 2 SO: 1 GAA: 3.79 SV%: .873%
TOT: ANC GP: 29 W: 11 L: 11 OTL: 6 SO: 1 GAA: 3.33 SV%: .882%
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SMJHL Hardware
S67 Cedric Robinson Trophy Nominee
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SHL Season Career Statistics
S70: TBB GP: 57 W: 13 L: 39 OTL: 1 SO: 0 GAA: 4.87 SV%: .885%
S71: TBB GP: 58 W: 17 L: 29 OTL: 6 SO: 1 GAA: 4.14 SV%: .900%
TOT: TBB GP: 115 W: 30 L: 68 OTL: 7 SO: 1 GAA: 4..50 SV%: .893%
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SHL Playoff Career Statistics
S70: TBB GP: 0 W:0 L: 0 OTL: 0 SO: 0 GAA: 0.00 SV%: .000%
S71: TBB GP: 5 W:1 L: 4 OTL: 0 SO: 1 GAA: 4.41 SV%: .899%
TOT: TBB GP: 5 W:1 L: 4 OTL: 0 SO: 1 GAA: 4.41 SV%: .899%
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SHL Hardware
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Ruslan "Sparkplug" Zaporozhets || LW || Toronto/Calgary
Height: 6'1" || Weight: 200lbs
Number: 18
Birthplace: Zaporizhzhya, Ukraine
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SMJHL Season Career Statistics
S50: STL GP: 50 G: 15 A: 12 PTS: 27 +/-: -9 PIM: 20 SH: 114 SH%: 13.16% Hits: 33 SB: 8 Fighting: 0-0-0
S51: STL GP: 50 G: 19 A: 21 PTS: 40 +/-: +1 PIM: 21 SH: 122 SH%: 15.57% Hits: 50 SB: 6 Fighting: 0-0-1
S52: STL GP: 50 G: 16 A: 30 PTS: 46 +/-: +11 PIM: 12 SH: 149 SH%: 10.47% Hits: 71 SB: 9 Fighting: 0-0-0
S53: STL GP: 50 G: 17 A: 25 PTS: 42 +/-: -10 PIM: 20 SH: 161 SH%: 10.56% Hits: 47 SB: 34 Fighting: 0-0-0
Tot: STL GP: 200 G: 67 A: 88 PTS: 155 +/-: -7 PIM: 73 SH: 546 SH%: 8.15% Hits: 201 SB: 57 Fighting: 0-0-1
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SMJHL Playoff Career Statistics
S50: STL GP: 13 G: 4 A: 3 PTS: 7 +/-: -1 PIM: 0 SH: 24 SH%: 16.67% Hits: 11 SB: 1 Fighting: 0-0-0
S51: STL GP: 12 G: 4 A: 6 PTS: 10 +/-: 7 PIM: 6 SH: 34 SH%: 11.76% Hits: 14 SB: 2 Fighting: 0-0-0
S52: STL GP: 17 G: 3 A: 5 PTS: 8 +/-: -3 PIM: 6 SH: 56 SH%: 5.36% Hits: 16 SB: 6 Fighting: 0-0-0
S53: STL GP: 14 G: 5 A: 3 PTS: 8 +/-: 0 PIM: 2 SH: 47 SH%: 10.64% Hits: 19 SB: 5 Fighting: 0-0-0
Tot: STL GP: 42 G: 16 A: 17 PTS: 33 +/-: 3 PIM: 14 SH: 161 SH%: 10.06% Hits: 60 SB: 14 Fighting: 0-0-0
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SHL Season Career Statistics
S54: TOR GP: 50 G: 16 A: 22 PTS: 38 +/-: -20 PIM: 28 SH: 109 SH%: 14.68% Hits: 111 SB: 56 Fighting: 0-0
S55: TOR GP: 50 G: 6 A: 15 PTS: 21 +/-: -41 PIM: 41 SH: 102 SH%: 05.88% Hits: 136 SB: 58 Fighting: 0-1
S56: TOR GP: 50 G: 15 A: 21 PTS: 36 +/-: -20 PIM: 24 SH: 121 SH%: 12.40% Hits: 115 SB: 40 Fighting: 0-0
S57: TOR GP: 66 G: 17 A: 31 PTS: 48 +/-: 5 PIM: 35 SH: 212 SH%: 8.02% Hits: 126 SB: 36 Fighting: 2-1
S58: TOR GP: 66 G: 37 A: 34 PTS: 71 +/-: 33 PIM: 20 SH: 216 SH%: 17.13% Hits: 159 SB: 40 Fighting: 0-0
S59: TOR GP: 66 G: 24 A: 39 PTS: 63 +/-: 14 PIM: 44 SH: 194 SH%: 12.40% Hits: 152 SB: 33 Fighting: 0-2
S60: TOR GP: 66 G: 22 A: 30 PTS: 52 +/-: 20 PIM: 48 SH: 179 SH%: 12.30% Hits: 274 SB: 17 Fighting: 0-0
S61: TOR GP: 66 G: 20 A: 22 PTS: 42 +/-: 11 PIM: 12 SH: 172 SH%: 11.60% Hits: 148 SB: 22 Fighting: 0-0
S62: TOR GP: 66 G: 16 A: 25 PTS: 41 +/-: 3 PIM: 38 SH: 165 SH%: 9.7% Hits: 182 SB: 28 Fighting: 0-0
S63: CGY/TOR GP: 65 G: 18 A: 21 PTS: 39 +/-: 7 PIM: 65 SH: 145 SH%: 12.40% Hits: 210 SB: 14 Fighting: 1-0
S64: TOR GP: 66 G: 18 A: 26 PTS: 44 +/-: -14 PIM: 22 SH: 139 SH%: 12.90% Hits: 183 SB: 64 Fighting: 0-0
S65: TOR GP: 66 G: 11 A: 19 PTS: 30 +/-: -29 PIM: 8 SH: 139 SH%: 7.90% Hits: 106 SB: 45 Fighting: 0-0
S66: TOR GP: 66 G: 17 A: 30 PTS: 47 +/-: 6 PIM: 16 SH: 170 SH%: 10.00% Hits: 85 SB: 78 Fighting: 0-0
Tot: TOR/CGY GP: 809 G: 237 A: 335 PTS: 572 +/-: -25 PIM: 401 SH: 2063 SH%: 11.49% Hits: 1987 SB: 531 Fighting: 3-4
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SHL Playoff Career Statistics
S54: TOR Did not qualify
S55: TOR Did not qualify
S56: TOR Did not qualify
S57: TOR Did not qualify
S58: TOR GP: 19 G: 4 A: 7 PTS: 11 +/-: 5 PIM: 2 SH: 49 SH%: 8.16% Hits: 51 SB: 5 Fighting: 0-0-0
S59: TOR Did not qualify
S60: TOR GP: 4 G: 1 A: 0 PTS: 1 +/-: -3 PIM: 0 SH: 3 SH%: 33.33% Hits: 12 SB: 0 Fighting: 0-0-0
S61: TOR GP: 5 G: 0 A: 3 PTS: 3 +/-: 3 PIM: 0 SH: 6 SH%: 0.00% Hits: 8 SB: 4 Fighting: 0-0-0
S62: TOR GP: 4 G: 0 A: 2 PTS: 2 +/-: -7 PIM: 0 SH: 7 SH%: 0.00% Hits: 12 SB: 1 Fighting: 0-0-0
S63: TOR GP: 5 G: 2 A: 1 PTS: 3 +/-: 1 PIM: 4 SH: 11 SH%: 18.2% Hits: 21 SB: 2 Fighting: 0-0-0
S64: TOR GP: 5 G: 2 A: 0 PTS: 2 +/-: -3 PIM: 0 SH: 8 SH%: 25.0% Hits: 10 SB: 6 Fighting: 0-0-0
S65: TOR GP: 6 G: 1 A: 5 PTS: 6 +/-: 4 PIM: 0 SH: 15 SH%: 6.07% Hits: 9 SB: 4 Fighting: 0-0
S66: TOR GP: 6 G: 1 A: 5 PTS: 6 +/-: 4 PIM: 0 SH: 15 SH%: 6.07% Hits: 9 SB: 4 Fighting: 0-0
Tot: TOR GP: 48 G: 10 A: 18 PTS: 28 +/-: E PIM: 6 SH: 99 SH%: 10.10% Hits: 123 SB: 22 Fighting: 0-0-0
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SHL Hardware
S54 Ryan Jesster Nominee
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SMJHL Hardware
NOTHING
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IIHF Awards/Medals
S53 Won Silver with Czechia
S54 Won Bronze with Czechia
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Richard "Big Dick" Physt || RD/LD || Alumni of Kel/Tor/Nola || Retired/CoGM of Toronto
Height: 6'1" || Weight: 202lbs ||
Number: 62
Birthplace: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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SMJHL Season Career Statistics
S38 Kel GP:50, G:0, A:8 P:8, +/-:-1, PIMS:27, H:48, SB:32 fight rec: 0-0-1
S39 Kel GP:50, G:2, A:22, P:24, +/-10, PIMS:57, H:81, SB:39, fight rec: 0-0-1
S40 Kel GP:50, G:2, A:16, P:18, +/-14, PIMS:65, H:76, SB:48, fight rec: 0-0-5
SMJHL Season Career Totals: Teams: Kel GP:150, G:4, A:46, P:50, +/-:23, PIMS:149, H:205, SB:119, fight rec: 0-0-7
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SMJHL Playoff Career Statistics
S38 Kel GP:6, G:0, A:1 P:1, +/-:-0, PIMS:2, H:8, SB:7 fight rec: 0-0-0
S39 Kel GP:4, G:0, A:2, P:2, +/-0, PIMS:4, H:11, SB:1, fight rec: 0-0-0
S40 Kel GP:10, G:2, A:1, P:3, +/-3, PIMS:6, H:17, SB:14, fight rec: 0-0-0
SMJHL Playoff Career Totals: Teams: Kel GP:20, G:2, A:4, P:6, +/-:3, PIMS:12, H:36, SB:22, fight rec: 0-0-0
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SHL Season Career Statistics
S41 Tor GP:50, G:4, A:10, P:14, +/- -3, PIMS:120, H:83, SB:66, fight rec: 1-2-3
S42 Tor GP:50, G:2, A:14, P:16, +/- -9, PIMS:71, H:100, SB:82, fight rec: 1-0-2
S43 Tor GP:50, G:2, A:24, P:26, +/- 0, PIMS:44, H:109, SB:68, fight rec: 0-0-0
S44 Tor GP:50, G:6, A:10, P:16, +/- +10, PIMS:66, H:149, SB:76, fight rec: 1-0-1
S45 Tor GP:50, G:2, A:24, P:26, +/- +7, PIMS:44, H:123, SB:44, fight rec: 0-0-2
S46 Nola GP:50, G:4, A:28, P:32, +/- +27, PIMS:64, H:139, SB:54, fight rec: 1-0-1
S47 Nola GP:50, G:6, A:26, P:32, +/- +26, PIMS:67, H:119, SB:55, fight rec: 0-1-0
S48 Nola GP:50, G:6, A:29, P:35, +/- +14, PIMS:96, H:132, SB:62, fight rec: 1-1-1
S49 Nola GP:50, G:5, A:21, P:26, +/- -7, PIMS:59, H:101, SB:76, fight rec: 0-1-0
S50 Nola GP:50, G:4, A:29, P:33, +/- 14, PIMS:48, H:115, SB:74, fight rec: 0-0-0
SHL Season Totals: Teams: Tor/Nola GP:500, G:41, A:215, P:256, +/- +79, PIMS:679, H:1170, SB:657, fight rec: 5-5-10
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SHL Playoff Career Statistics
S41 Tor Did Not Qualify
S42 Tor Did Not Qualify
S43 Tor Did Not Qualify
S44 Tor GP:7, G:2, A:2, P:4, +/- 0, PIMS:8, H:25, SB:14, fight rec: 0-0-0, Finish: Semi Finals
S45 Tor GP:5, G:0, A:3, P:3, +/- 0, PIMS:6, H:16, SB:9, fight rec: 0-0-0, Finish: Semi Finals
S46 Nola GP:20, G:1, A:5, P:6, +/- -8, PIMS:32, H:55, SB:25, fight rec: 0-0-2, Finish: Cup Finals
S47 Nola GP:7, G:0, A:3, P:3, +/- 0, PIMS:15, H:20, SB:5, fight rec: 0-1-0, Finish: Semi Finals
S48 Nola GP:13, G:2, A:2, P:4, +/- 0, PIMS:30, H:29, SB:21, fight rec: 1-1-0, Finish: Conference Finals
S49 Nola GP:11, G:1, A:4, P:5, +/- -1, PIMS:8, H:19, SB:17, fight rec: 0-0-0, Finish: Conference Finals
SHL Playoff Totals: Teams: Tor/Nola GP:63, G:6, A:19, P:25, +/- -9, PIMS:99, H:164, SB:91, fight rec: 1-2-2
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GM Season Statistics
S61: Tor W: 33, L: 29, OTL: 4, Cups:0
S62: Tor W: 32, L: 29, OTL: 5, Cups:0
Total: Tor W: 65, L: 58, OTL: 9, Cups:0
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SHL Hardware
Turd Ferguson Trophy (S41)
Mathias Chouinard Trophy (Western Conference Champions) (S46)
Bojo Biscuit Award (Best Defensive Defenseman) Nominee (S47)
Bojo Biscuit Award (Best Defensive Defenseman) Nominee (S50)
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SMJHL Hardware
4 Star Cup (S40)
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IIHF Awards/Medals
S43 Won Bronze with Austria
S45 Won Bronze with Austria
S47 Won Bronze with Austria
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