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04-17-2021, 09:59 AMreid Wrote:
04-17-2021, 09:16 AMCapt_Blitzkrieg Wrote: I'm sorry, what? Please clarify?

Further, it was my understanding that extensions and renewals are different contracts. That's why things like bonuses, HTDs, and different TPE tiers can be applied to extensions and renewals in the first place.

If they were truly the same contract regardless of renewals and extensions, then any such modifications would arguably be illegal. The only way to increase contracts or have bonuses would be at signing with a new team in free agency.

The rule clarification is fine. The justification given for punishment is on a Tacoma Narrows Bridge level of structural integrity. There seems to be some inconsistency in definition of what a contract extension is, versus the original, versus a renewal. Further, there have been some liberties taken with what constitutes modifying a contract.

The punishment as stated in the original post was levied for modifying an existing contract. There's nothing in the rulebook that indicates that contracting and paying out a bonus through extension, based on performance during a season under contract before the extension, is modifying the original contract in any way. If I'm wrong, please kindly point me to the piece that I'm missing here.
Blitz you are taking the first part of what DT said completely out of context, seeing that phrase and ignoring the rest of the sentence. What he said was:

Quote:... and the argument that an extension is the same contract and so something could be applied based on the previous season's activities before the extension started is actually not valid. 

so you are making the exact same argument HO is making. Extensions and renewals are not the same contract as their current. In this example, Dex and honkers S56-57 extensions were not the same contract as their S55. That is all teddy is saying. 

That is the crux of the misunderstanding which caused this punishment. The contract bonuses cannot legally be paid out on S56 cap, as the clause is tied to the S56 season (on a new and different contract) and by the rule book, has to be paid out and accounted for in S57. 

you can’t activate a clause that is not in your current contract. That’s about as simple as I can boil it down

Hey Reid, thank you for taking the time to help boil it down. It makes it easier to understand for people like me Smile

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RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Jobin - 04-16-2021, 11:37 PM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Jobin - 04-16-2021, 11:40 PM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Jobin - 04-16-2021, 11:52 PM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Nike - 04-19-2021, 10:04 AM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Ruggsy - 04-16-2021, 11:47 PM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by reid - 04-17-2021, 09:59 AM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by CptSquall - 04-17-2021, 10:44 AM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Rev - 04-18-2021, 12:35 PM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by JNH - 04-18-2021, 04:47 PM
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RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by Wally - 04-17-2021, 09:44 AM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by sve7en - 04-17-2021, 10:52 AM
RE: Toronto Punishment Appeal Results - by trella - 04-17-2021, 02:02 PM
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