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Ya i agree <a href='index.php?showuser=2646' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-10'>Sleepy</a>

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#17

FUCK U PAY ME

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#18

Quote:Originally posted by TML99@Jun 7 2018, 01:52 PM
The argument is always "there is someone who is willing to do it for free" and like you said in your OP I think that's a bs. reason

I have been SMJHL GM for 18-19 seasons? and this discussion has been had a handful of times I never quiet understood why it never went anywhere.

Lets see what people have to say this time around Tongue
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#19

I guess something like $2m - 3m should be fine, not as big that someone who chases money wants to do it but still big enough as some form of compensation for the work you have as a GM.

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I don't think any current GM wants an absurd amount of money, just to be compensated for the hours of work put in every season. Between scouting and test sims alone, we lose a ton of hours that shortens the amount of time we have to earn money in other ways.

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Quote:Originally posted by Keygan@Jun 7 2018, 01:54 PM
But <a href='index.php?showuser=2646' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-10'>Sleepy</a> everyone wants a GM position.. it should be payment enough that you were selected. Rolleyes

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#22

Quote:Originally posted by TheDangaZone@Jun 7 2018, 02:11 PM
As far as HO I don't think they/we should ever be paid. I think HO should exist to help the league as best as possible and anyone who truly wants to better the league takes the job because of that. Not chasing some money.

This was my stance (at least regarding HO pay, not GM pay) until I saw WJC HO gets paid. Now I am a s a l t y b o i

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#23

Quote:Originally posted by rieksts@Jun 7 2018, 02:00 PM
Will agree with Sleepy, especially on the GM case. The work and importance of the SMJHL's GM's is, perhaps, one of the highest ones on the site, as they tutor, teach some basics and introduce the new players to the league.

I was about to drop into another inactivity before <a href='index.php?showuser=2761' rel='nofollow' alt='profile link' class='user-tagged mgroup-10'>Keygan</a> actually explained to me that Defense is a God stat needed for every position and that kind of saved Loks career and changed the way how I enjoyed SHL within one season.


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#25

Yeah as is the case with probably the majority of GMs, as someone who's busy irl it's pretty much impossible to dedicate additional time to the league besides the stuff I do with GMing to earn much, and the fact as GM you're always gonna take min contract (currently a measly 500K) doesn't put you in a good place financially. I'd like to see a small amount of pay, not top dollar but enough to actually help out and lessen the blow a bit

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I also think getting paid a small amount 2-3M per season would be nice for GM's, especially SHL GM's, but I've done both and SMJHL is a fair amount of work also. I agree being a GM is an honor and something I'd happily continue to do for free. That being said, we do a lot of work, the off-season is very short now and we have various tasks to take care of in a small window, draft, FA, regression, forum updating, budget, etc. That always feels like crunch time to me. Then of course normal work in-season with managing the team and player development, etc. It's all fun don't get me wrong but would be nice to get a little paycheck for it. Maybe if GM's don't complete their tasks on time they don't get paid would help people get things done quickly also.

GM's usually take minimum contracts as well, so would be a nice way to get them a little extra bonus each season, nothing crazy.

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Quote:Originally posted by Steelhead77@Jun 7 2018, 11:48 AM
I also think getting paid a small amount 2-3M per season would be nice for GM's, especially SHL GM's, but I've done both and SMJHL is a fair amount of work also. I agree being a GM is an honor and something I'd happily continue to do for&nbsp; free. That being said, we do a lot of work, the off-season is&nbsp; very short now and we have various tasks to take care of in a small window, draft, FA, regression, forum updating, budget, etc. That always feels like crunch time to me. Then of course normal work in-season with managing the team and player development, etc. It's all fun don't get me wrong but would be nice to get a little paycheck for it. [b]Maybe if GM's don't complete their tasks on time they don't get paid would help people get things done quickly also.

GM's usually take minimum contracts as well, so would be a nice way to get them a little extra bonus each season, nothing crazy.[/b]

I think this is a good idea. When things aren't submitted or administrative errors are made GMs lose their pay...then the SMJHL would have a 3rd round this season.

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#28

I completely agree. Of course I am bias but I would still support it if I was not a GM. The amount of work put into being a GM can get intense. I am sure the same goes for being a HO member.

We're also the job that gets punished the most for mistakes. So I dunno, I feel like even a little compensation should be given for the efforts we put into making the seasons go.

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Quote:Originally posted by ErM@Jun 7 2018, 01:50 PM


I think this is a good idea. When things aren't submitted or administrative errors are made GMs lose their pay...then the SMJHL would have a 3rd round this season.
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Quote:Originally posted by ErM@Jun 7 2018, 01:50 PM


I think this is a good idea. When things aren't submitted or administrative errors are made GMs lose their pay...then the SMJHL would have a 3rd round this season.

I'll have you know I have your 3rd rounder, thank you very much.

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