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DeletedAtUserRequest · 07-22-2018, 01:04 AM

Last week we completed another exciting awards show which highlighted some of our leagues greatest stars! One of the things I wanted to do when taking over the awards committee was to look over all of the awards and determine whether we are representing the whole player build spectrum... and if the awards are not representing a certain style of play.. can we come up with a set of criteria which makes sense to create a new award.

I wanted to open this up to the league and see what your thoughts are... is the set of awards fine as is? are we missing something? is there an award that needs to be modified? what do we need to add? All input will be looked over and taken serious, so the floor is yours...

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Avakael · 07-22-2018, 02:29 AM

It'd help avoid a lot of controversy if some of these awards were better defined in regards to what was judged- especially the Stevens, which could do with being split into an offensive defenceman and a defensive defenceman award.

DeletedAtUserRequest · 08-06-2018, 10:24 PM

Looking for some input from the league!

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King · 08-06-2018, 10:25 PM

07-22-2018, 02:29 AMAvakael Wrote: It'd help avoid a lot of controversy if some of these awards were better defined in regards to what was judged- especially the Stevens, which could do with being split into an offensive defenceman and a defensive defenceman award.

This times 1000 people appreciate clarity.

DeletedAtUserRequest · 08-06-2018, 10:34 PM

08-06-2018, 10:25 PMKing Wrote:
07-22-2018, 02:29 AMAvakael Wrote: It'd help avoid a lot of controversy if some of these awards were better defined in regards to what was judged- especially the Stevens, which could do with being split into an offensive defenceman and a defensive defenceman award.

This times 1000 people appreciate clarity.

I put together some of our great league minds last season and created an awards description list which is used internally as a broad outline for our committee members... i worry that having that documant out here would take away from the excitment of who will win these awards... so im not sure if im ready to post it outside of the committee... but what i do agree completley with Avakeal, Physty and King is the need for a defensive award for either forwards and or defenseman. the reality is we struggle sometimes with the criteria simply because we dont have enough awards to represent each segmant of player in the SHL.

i would like to create a brainstorming group to discuss and create the parameters for a new award and its criteria.. if you believe you have the passion and knowledge to be apart of that committee... DM me on discord.. (and when the time comes for that brainstorming..ill add ya to the channell)

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*thedangazone* · 08-06-2018, 11:15 PM

What about an SHL version of the Lady Byng.

***artermis*** · 08-07-2018, 02:46 PM

Most Sportsmanlike plz so I can actually win something

EDIT: Yeah TDZ and I on the same frequency, helps that I'm also blind

ArGarBarGar · 08-07-2018, 03:03 PM

There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
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JSS · 08-07-2018, 03:07 PM

08-07-2018, 03:03 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Most blocked shots + factoring in PK time and maybe +/-?

*Good_Ole_Kimmy* · 08-07-2018, 03:13 PM

08-07-2018, 03:07 PMJSS Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:03 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Most blocked shots + factoring in PK time and maybe +/-?

That makes sense to me. Even though we don't have many stats that can show who is the best defensive defenseman doesn't mean that we should just ignore them when it comes award time, we do the best we can with what we have.

.bojo · 08-07-2018, 03:20 PM

It'd be nice to see how many goals against while on the ice

ArGarBarGar · 08-07-2018, 03:23 PM

08-07-2018, 03:13 PMGood_Ole_Kimmy Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:07 PMJSS Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:03 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Most blocked shots + factoring in PK time and maybe +/-?
That makes sense to me. Even though we don't have many stats that can show who is the best defensive defenseman doesn't mean that we should just ignore them when it comes award time, we do the best we can with what we have.

They should be utilized when determining who deserves the Stevens. Diluting the award into two makes two awards with even less clout.

Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
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DeletedAtUserRequest · 08-07-2018, 03:25 PM

08-07-2018, 03:13 PMGood_Ole_Kimmy Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:07 PMJSS Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:03 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Most blocked shots + factoring in PK time and maybe +/-?
That makes sense to me. Even though we don't have many stats that can show who is the best defensive defenseman doesn't mean that we should just ignore them when it comes award time, we do the best we can with what we have.

While it may be hard to accomplish..My belief is that the awards should represent the 70-90 members that have sought out to become a shut down defensive player.

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*Good_Ole_Kimmy* · 08-07-2018, 03:54 PM

08-07-2018, 03:23 PMArGarBarGar Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:13 PMGood_Ole_Kimmy Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:07 PMJSS Wrote:
08-07-2018, 03:03 PMArGarBarGar Wrote: There are not enough statistics involved in STHS for us to judge a defensive defenseman accurately and compare them with a ton of other defensive defensemen who have similar stats in a lot of places.

Even the Dar is a struggle to really determine who is the best "two-way" "defensive" forward. Adding one for a defenseman would be silly to me.

Most blocked shots + factoring in PK time and maybe +/-?
That makes sense to me. Even though we don't have many stats that can show who is the best defensive defenseman doesn't mean that we should just ignore them when it comes award time, we do the best we can with what we have.

They should be utilized when determining who deserves the Stevens. Diluting the award into two makes two awards with even less clout.

Yes but saying the best defenseman is too broad, I think splitting it into two best defensive and offensive would he clear it up. We could also keep the Stevens for just best all around.

Eggy216 · 08-07-2018, 04:29 PM

What about an SHL equivalent to the Elias Armia?

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