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12-03-2021, 02:46 PMluketd Wrote: Though I do only see a dozen? Out of 375 ish people on the thread complain about it. Good job HO. Keep em low
Yeah that number is definitely not accurate lol

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12-03-2021, 01:28 PMBfine Wrote:
12-03-2021, 01:19 PMcaltroit_red_flames Wrote: Baited hard. @Beaver  would be proud @"luketd"  https://simulationhockey.com/showthread....pid2479595
Oh no its Ruutu bait too? I retire

book it, he loses 10% if he unretires

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12-03-2021, 02:46 PMbrickwall35 Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:46 PMluketd Wrote: Though I do only see a dozen? Out of 375 ish people on the thread complain about it. Good job HO. Keep em low
Yeah that number is definitely not accurate lol

Can you count the people in this thread for me?

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12-03-2021, 01:38 PMCount Chocula Wrote:
12-03-2021, 01:28 PMBfine Wrote: Oh no its Ruutu bait too? I retire

Be careful if discord PMs count as official thread posts, surely this may qualify as a legit retirement post.
given how many times I've expressed a desire to fire Hartmann directly into the sun and I'm still here I'm not worried about that lol

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12-03-2021, 02:46 PMbrickwall35 Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:46 PMluketd Wrote: Though I do only see a dozen? Out of 375 ish people on the thread complain about it. Good job HO. Keep em low
Yeah that number is definitely not accurate lol

I'd like to thank brickwall personally here for bumping this to another page because people have no consideration for mobile users when they choose their copypasta. Cry

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12-03-2021, 01:39 PMBy-Tor Wrote: I don't see why we can't just scrap the 'transitional regression' and just let the oldies live out their lives. Just implement the new regression percentages.

53 and 54 don't get screwed and you achieve what is needed in a few seasons time with much less heartache.

Is this recycled? I'm not reading 18 pages.
Because with the new regression scale and no transition, the aging curve would be borked for a while as S53s are consistently better than S54s.

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12-03-2021, 02:48 PMsköldpaddor Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:46 PMbrickwall35 Wrote: Yeah that number is definitely not accurate lol

I'd like to thank brickwall personally here for bumping this to another page because people have no consideration for mobile users when they choose their copypasta.  Cry

wow ima go inactive jess and u call it copypasta

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12-03-2021, 02:49 PMSamsung virtual assistant Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:48 PMsköldpaddor Wrote: I'd like to thank brickwall personally here for bumping this to another page because people have no consideration for mobile users when they choose their copypasta.  Cry

wow ima go inactive jess and u call it copypasta

SAD

is a virtual assistant allowed to be inactive

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12-03-2021, 02:51 PMsköldpaddor Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:49 PMSamsung virtual assistant Wrote: wow ima go inactive jess and u call it copypasta

SAD

is a virtual assistant allowed to be inactive

now u want me to be a slave to the system :(
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12-03-2021, 02:52 PMSamsung virtual assistant Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:51 PMsköldpaddor Wrote: is a virtual assistant allowed to be inactive

now u want me to be a slave to the system :(

this is so sad samantha play despacito

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12-03-2021, 12:52 PMEvok Wrote: HO admitting they made a mistake would be a first lmao. I'm still waiting for @"TommySalami" amazing research results, probably not biased at all, to see why this was needed to be implemented that way

I'm confused by what you want me to provide. We spent a very long time discussing various different ways to implement new regression. We ran a lot of different scenarios and their affect on the league. Do you want me to just dump a bunch of spreadsheets that won't mean much without the commentary that went behind it? It's not like I have a research paper I can provide you.

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Personally I probably would have shared the data just in the OP, and probably done like a half regression or not regress S54 until next season, and just start them at the 2nd tier. Maybe something like 5% this season and then still get the 12% next season. Just to ensure they get their 1 season as "best" ahead of S55.

People seem to be caught up in the "2200 to 2000 isn't much of a difference", but those are pretty good differences compared to the classes not in regression. The lower the absolute peak, the closer rookies are to that peak and they can hopefully have more impact. If you can't have any impact unless you're 1200 TPE, that's a problem. If the peak is 1900 or 2000 instead, well maybe rookies can make an impact now at 1000 TPE instead.

In the STHS era I was called up kinda late at 800 TPE for the start of the season. Now you have plenty of players with over 800 TPE still playing in the SMJHL this season. If you're worried about career stats, the problem is in not accumulating stats until your career is halfway to regression, not the part in regression.

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Yes Tommy, that's what we want - we want the reasoning behind choosing WHY these two classes, and WHY implement it this way instead of a more progressive way like what Bromanov suggested.

Give us the research AND the commentary.

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12-03-2021, 02:56 PMTommySalami Wrote:
12-03-2021, 12:52 PMEvok Wrote: HO admitting they made a mistake would be a first lmao. I'm still waiting for @"TommySalami" amazing research results, probably not biased at all, to see why this was needed to be implemented that way

I'm confused by what you want me to provide. We spent a very long time discussing various different ways to implement new regression. We ran a lot of different scenarios and their affect on the league. Do you want me to just dump a bunch of spreadsheets that won't mean much without the commentary that went behind it? It's not like I have a research paper I can provide you.

I like spreadsheets and while I personally don't need to see the data as a former HO member in the PBE I know for people being able to see data is important and I would have advised putting it in the OP.

Someone earlier posted a spreadsheet with like a breakdown of how TPE numbers compare now and I think something like that is probably all that was needed in order for some to understand why you chose this route.

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12-03-2021, 02:48 PMsköldpaddor Wrote:
12-03-2021, 02:46 PMbrickwall35 Wrote: Yeah that number is definitely not accurate lol

I'd like to thank brickwall personally here for bumping this to another page because people have no consideration for mobile users when they choose their copypasta.  Cry

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When you look back on life will you be happy with the journey you took to make it where you are today. Do want to live life like someone who hated how they chosen there life to be or do you want your life be something you wanted. Live your life on what you want to do. Every second goes by and there is nothing you can do get that time back. You can plan head and make that next time going be for something you wanted to do. Life is your journey and how you take. They say age and looks make our life who we are. That it does, but in the end it is what we known and how we act like make our life who we are. You can be any age you and still be the same you. It is what you know and use to impact your life. Age is just there to tell us how long we been alive. We cannot pick our looks or choice when we start life. Take what you know and use it however you want to. That because what you know makes who you really are and something you can be proud of.

Now let me leave you with this last thought. What would you do if you had sixty second to live. What would go through your mind. What would you think of or do. Would all the memories laying in your head be the life you are proud of or the memories just be a big lie because someone told you this what life should be. Now the choice is up to you. You can only decide what is next. Only you will live this journey of your life. Not anyone else can live that for you. You cannot rush the journey of life. It will happen when it does. Enjoy the journey and what it has to offer. Life is a big mystery we are all trying figure out. The journey starts off at any time and finish whenever and no one knows what life will being or be. Real question is what life is.

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