Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 10:07 AM

I wouldn't say he is overpaid. It's a hefty amount but not overpaid. It's all about opinions. You cannot tell me that Scheifele will pan out, therefore, I would want to stick with the proven player.

yes, I can tell you that Scheifele will pan out.

Not debatable at all. He is a top pairing. If this trade happens EDM wins this easily IMO. We won't make the playoffs either unless Nonis has another deal up his sleeves on obtaining a top defenceman.

I could easily see it being Gardiner and him potentially having asked out of Toronto after the way he got treated last year. Though I'm not sure why they'd want another puck mover with zero D skill when they have Schultz and Whitney. Your also talking 7th OV in an extremely deep draft so that pretty good value

West Kendall

Rahotep Tutankhamun Right Wing
The Greatest Name Of All

Originally posted by jkrever@Jun 21 2013, 10:08 AM

yes, I can tell you that Scheifele will pan out.

:lol:

All I'm going to say.

Originally posted by ProdigyMcdavid@Jun 21 2013, 10:10 AM
I could easily see it being Gardiner and him potentially having asked out of Toronto after the way he got treated last year. Though I'm not sure why they'd want another puck mover with [b]zero D skill when they have Schultz and Whitney. Your also talking 7th OV in an extremely deep draft so that pretty good value[/b]

...
Have you watched him play?

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 10:10 AM
Not debatable at all. He is a top pairing. If this trade happens EDM wins this easily IMO. We won't make the playoffs either unless Nonis has another deal up his sleeves on obtaining a top defenceman.

It is debatable, there are many teams in the NHL where Phaneuf would not be on the top pairing.

The fact that he is the only defenceman the Leafs have that can supposedly matchup against top talent every night says the Leafs are still pretty far away as a team, and should not shy away from trading average NHL defencemen with below-average skating ability and poor instincts, making $6.5 million a season in a contract year at the age of 28, for a 19-year-old future superstar.

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 10:10 AM

:lol:

All I'm going to say.

why is that funny? ask any NHL scout or executive, they will give you the same answer, I guarantee it.

Also u guys are no where near the playoffs next year. TSN broke down your advanced statistics your the worst puck possession team in the NHL the reasons you mad the playoffs was an crazy a average shot to goal percentage and the 9th best save percentage in the league anyone who thinks ur rebuild isn't over is sad.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=425455

West Kendall

Rahotep Tutankhamun Right Wing
The Greatest Name Of All

Originally posted by jkrever@Jun 21 2013, 10:13 AM

why is that funny? ask any NHL scout or executive, they will give you the same answer, I guarantee it.

He has the potential yes, but you can't guarantee anything. You can't predict the future.

Originally posted by ProdigyMcdavid@Jun 21 2013, 08:10 AM
I could easily see it being Gardiner and him potentially having asked out of Toronto after the way he got treated last year. Though I'm not sure why they'd want another puck mover with zero D skill when they have Schultz and Whitney. Your also talking 7th OV in an extremely deep draft so that pretty good value

Whitney is leaving since he is a bitch.

Käri Bärköv || LW || Calgary Dragons || RETIRED  
Age: 18
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 175 lbs
Number: 93
------------------------------------------------------------
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 175 lbs
>Number: 93
------------------------------------------------------------
Regular Season Statistics:
S10 VAN: GP: 40 G: 29 A: 25 P: 54 +/-: 21 H: 77 PIM: 42
S11 CHI:   GP: 40 G: 16 A: 14 P: 30 +/-: -39 H: 66 PIM: 10
S12 CGY: GP: 50 G: 5 A: 6 P: 11 +/-: -16 H: 57 PIM: 2
S13 CGY: GP: 50 G: 8 A: 13 P: 21 +/-: 20 H: 34 PIM: 24  
S14 CGY: GP: 50 G: 13 A: 13 P: 26 +/-: 5 H: 73 PIM: 32
S15 CGY: GP: 50 G: 10 A: 31 P: 41 +/-: 5 H: 128 PIM: 54
S16 CGY: GP: 50 G: 19 A: 15 P: 34 +/-: 0 H: 97 PIM: 16
S17 CGY: GP: 50 G: 23 A: 25 P: 48 +/-: +6 H: 136 PIM: 17
S18 CGY: GP: 50 G: 14 A: 21 P: 35  +/-: -11 H: 130 PIM: 32
S19 CGY: GP: 50 G: 16 A: 17 P: 33 +/-: +4 H: 143 PIM: 47
S20 CGY: GP: 50 G: 20 A: 26  P: 46 +/-: +14 H: 113 PIM: 32
S21 CGY: GP: 50 G: 12 A: 19 P: 31 +/-: 4 H: 146 PIM: 76
S22 CGY/EDM: GP: 51 G: 10 A: 12 P: 22 +/-: -7 H: 102
PIM: 43

------------------------------------------------------------
Playoff Statistics:
S10 VAN: GP: 12 G: 6 A: 9 P: 15 +/-: 6 H: 28 PIM: 25 FO: 50.00%
S11 CHI:  GP: 6 G: 5 A: 4 P: 9 +/-: 2 H: 12 PIM: 2
S12 CGY: GP: 4 G: 0 A: 2 P: 2 +/-: 3 H: 4 PIM: 0  
S13 CGY: GP: 11 G: 2 A: 1 P: 3 +/-: 4 H: 6 PIM: 4  
S14 CGY: GP: 6 G: 1 A: 1 P: 2 +/-: -3 H: 13 PIM: 10
S15 CGY: GP: 14 G: 2 A: 3 P: 5 +/-: -1 H: 28 PIM: 12
S16 CGY: GP: 11 G: 7 A: 7 P: 14 +/-: 5 H: 29 PIM: 2
S17 CGY: GP: 6 : G: 3 A: 3 P: 6 =/-: +0 H: 26
PIM: 0
S18 CGY: GP: 4 G: 3 A: 0 P: 3 +/-: -1 H: 10 PIM: 0
S19 CGY: GP: 7 G: 2 A: 1 P: 3 +/- 0 H: 16 PIM: 8
S22 CGY: GP: 12 G: 0 A: 2 P: 2 +/-: 6 H:19 PIM: 12
------------------------------------------------------------
IHF Statistics:
WJC Finland Season 10: GP: 14 G: 5 A: 2 P: 7 +/-: -13 H: 17 PIM: 4
WJC Finland Season 11: GP:9 G: 5 A: 6 P: 11 +/-: -5 PIM: 2
IHF Finland (career totals): GP: 35 G: 13 A: 19 P: 32 +/-: +4 H: 64  PIM: 8
------------------------------------------------------------
[pbl]Transactions:
Signed with Vancouver Whalers for 2 Million
Named Assistant Captain of the Vancouver Whalers
Drafted 22nd overall by the Calgary Dragons in the S11 SHL Entry Draft
Signed 3 year 11 million ELC with Calgary Dragons
Named Assistant Captain of the Chicago Hitmen
Named CO-GM of the Vancouver Whalers
Named CO-GM of the Calgary Dragons
Named Head GM of the Calgary Dragons
------------------------------------------------------------
Awards:
S10 NWJHL Championship
S10 IHF WJ Bronze Medal
Season 11 Michael Haan trophy winner for most dedicated player
Season 13 IHF Silver Medal
Season 13 JJ Krever award for best GM (shared with Kain Webb)
Season 13 IHF Silver Medal
Season 14 JJ Krever runner up
Season 14 IHF Silver Medal
Season 15 Aidan Richan winner
Season 17 First All-Star Team
Season 17 Aidan Richan winner
Season 18 IHF Bronze Medal
Season 18 Damian Littleton Nominee

------------------------------------------------------------

Parker Smeb || RD || Chicago Syndicate || 1473 TPE
SMJHL Regular Season Statistics:
S45 COL: GP: 50 G: 14 A: 13 P: 27 +/-: 9 H: 68 SB: 5
S46 COL:  GP: 40 G: 22 A: 19 P: 41 +/-: 2 H: 127 SB: 3
SMJHL Play-Off Statistics:
S45 COL: GP: 16 G: 6 A: 4 P: 10 +/-: 8 H: 13 SB: 0
S46 COL: GP: 7 G: 2 A: 0 P: 2  +/-: 1 H: 20 SB: 3
SHL Regular Season Statistics:
S47 CHI: GP: 50 G: 10 A: 18 P: 28 +/-: -12 H: 138 SB: 11
S48 CHI: 50 G: 8 A: 9 P: 17 +/-: -19 H: 119 SB: 8  
S49 CHI: GP: 50 G: 14 A: 20 P: 34 +/-: 5 H: 77 SB: 15
SHL Play-Off Statistics
S47 CHI: GP: 9 G: 1 A: 3 P: 4 +/-: -3 H: 9 SB: 0
International Statistics:
S45 WJ WOR GP: 21 G: 4 A: 5 P: 9 +/-: -1 H: 51 SB: 3
S46 WJ WOR GP: 30 G: 11 A: 7 P: 18 +/-: -5 H: 62 SB: 4
S47 JPN GP: 12 G: 5 A: 2 P: 7 +/-: -4 H: 34 SB: 4
S48 JPN GP: 12 G: 4 A: 3 P: 7 +/-: -9 H: 50 SB: 4
S49 JPN GP: 12 G: 4 A: 1 P: 5 +/-:+2 H: 37 SB: 4
CAREER: GP: 87 G: 28 A: 18 P: 46 +/-: -17 H: 234 SB: 19




------------------------------------------------------------

"“HA HA! THIS GAME WILL NEVER END! I POSSESS THE SOUL OF EVERY GOALIE ON TEAM B!! CREW 4 LIFE!! SIGN WITH EDMONTON FOR THE CUP!!!” cackled Belial as he placed a Fedora on his head."
SMJHL Commisioner S17-S26
Calgary Dragons GM S14-S23

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 10:16 AM

He has the potential yes, but you can't guarantee anything. You can't predict the future.

so in other words you wouldn't have traded Dion for Crosby before he was drafted. Good to know.

Originally posted by ProdigyMcdavid@Jun 21 2013, 10:15 AM
Also u guys are no where near the playoffs next year. TSN broke down your advanced statistics your the worst puck possession team in the NHL the reasons you mad the playoffs was an crazy a average shot to goal percentage and the 9th best save percentage in the league anyone who thinks ur rebuild isn't over is sad.

We obvs need some improvements. Every team that didn't win the cup does. We have a solid goalie and an incredible offensive lineup. Our rebuild isn't over but it's near it's end.

Originally posted by ProdigyMcdavid@Jun 21 2013, 10:15 AM
Also u guys are no where near the playoffs next year. TSN broke down your advanced statistics your the worst puck possession team in the NHL the reasons you mad the playoffs was an crazy a average shot to goal percentage and the 9th best save percentage in the league anyone who thinks ur rebuild isn't over is sad.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=425455

apparently Deen thinks we're ready for a big cup run therefore we should avoid trading 28-year-old defencemen making $6.5 million in a contract year that aren't anywhere near elite for a shot at a young potential superstar.

Originally posted by jkrever@Jun 21 2013, 10:17 AM

so in other words you wouldn't have traded Dion for Crosby before he was drafted. Good to know.

Comparing Crosby to Schiefele.. Nice.

Originally posted by jkrever@Jun 21 2013, 10:18 AM

apparently Deen thinks we're ready for a big cup run therefore we should avoid trading 28-year-old defencemen making $6.5 million in a contract year that aren't anywhere near elite for a shot at a young potential superstar.

Big cup run? When did I say that... All I said is we can make the playoffs. We should be adding to the team to make it better. Not trading our best players away...