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Belov I woukd say is abit better at his inzone play than Phanuef but less physical and offensive. He looks like he could be a great FA signing I'd he pans out. Phanuef is overpayed I'd say hes a 5mill range D vs 6+ and this is coming from a phanuef flames fan (had his flames jeresey but it got trashrd by accident one day lol)

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Quote:Originally posted by hallsy@Jun 21 2013, 01:07 PM


its true. he sucks in his own end, he tries to makes the BIg hit all the time and fucks up on positioning. we need good two way defense-man not a pure offensive defencemen.  Thats why we have J.Schultz.


I rather go after a Ference in FA then give up a 7th OA for Dion. Plus i hear that Belov plays the exact same style as Dion, so we might have some more problems in our own end.  Something that we are weak in.
You didn't watch him much this season did you? He rarely went for the big hit this season. I have never been a big fan of Dion but he is another player that so many people have started thinking that he is over-rated that he is under-rated now lol. He join Luongo in that club.
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Quote:Originally posted by ProdigyMcdavid@Jun 21 2013, 10:12 AM
Belov I woukd say is abit better at his inzone play than Phanuef but less physical and offensive. He looks like he could be a great FA signing I'd he pans out. Phanuef is overpayed I'd say hes a 5mill range D vs 6+ and this is coming from a phanuef flames fan (had his flames jeresey but it got trashrd by accident one day lol)

But having a defense that had this:


Petry Dion
J.Schultz Smid
Belov N.Schultz
Potter


would be give headaches in their own end. We don't have any selke forwards to aid this weak defensive d core

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Quote:Originally posted by Secord@Jun 21 2013, 12:14 PM

You didn't watch him much this season did you? He rarely went for the big hit this season. I have never been a big fan of Dion but he is another player that so many people have started thinking that he is over-rated that he is under-rated now lol. He join Luongo in that club.
Yeahthat

He rarely goes for the big hit anymore. It's a little depressing tbh. I feel that's when he plays his best. If he is overpaid it's only by like 1Mish. He is defintely worth 5.5M.
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Quote:Originally posted by hallsy@Jun 21 2013, 10:07 AM


its true. he sucks in his own end, he tries to makes the BIg hit all the time and fucks up on positioning. we need good two way defense-man not a pure offensive defencemen.  Thats why we have J.Schultz.


I rather go after a Ference in FA then give up a 7th OA for Dion. Plus i hear that Belov plays the exact same style as Dion, so we might have some more problems in our own end.  Something that we are weak in.


I've heard different reports to be honest, I actually talked with a Avangard fan and he said that his defensive play is the best part of his game and that offence is just an added bonus, mean and tough in front of his net etc.

Hmm

Obviously we will see when he gets over there but i've read a lot of different reports on what his style of play is, most of the reports are from North America and im sure very few have actually seem him play. So im going to wait until training camp before I decide what kind of dman he is.

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Quote:Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 12:19 PM

Yeahthat

He rarely goes for the big hit anymore. It's a little depressing tbh. I feel that's when he plays his best. If he is overpaid it's only by like 1Mish. He is defintely worth 5.5M.

He went for the hit in overtime in game 7 Hmm :lol:
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Quote:Originally posted by O4L@Jun 21 2013, 10:26 AM



I've heard different reports to be honest, I actually talked with a Avangard fan and he said that his defensive play is the best part of his game and that offence is just an added bonus, mean and tough in front of his net etc.

Hmm

Obviously we will see when he gets over there but i've read a lot of different reports on what his style of play is, most of the reports are from North America and im sure very few have actually seem him play. So im going to wait until training camp before I decide what kind of dman he is.

I hear he is big and mean, can produce a lot of offence, booming shot, mobile, meh in his own end.
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KHL-NHL reporter:
http://oilersnation.com/2013/5/31/quick-sc...report-on-belov


I have heard he could be a 3-6 defense-man so he a has a decent amount of upside.

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Quote:Originally posted by SensNation613@Jun 21 2013, 12:32 PM


He went for the hit in overtime in game 7  Hmm  :lol:
Maybe you can't read or maybe you don't know what rarely means so let me help you out.

Rarely: 1. Not often; infrequently:

Also it wasn't game 7. It was game 5 I believe.
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iif you wouldnt trade phaneuf for a chance at a guy like nurse,domi,nicushkin or zadorov then you should never be a gm Smile
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Quote:Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 12:43 PM

Maybe you can't read or maybe you don't know what rarely means so let me help you out.

Rarely: 1. Not often; infrequently:

Also it wasn't game 7. It was game 5 I believe.

lmao yeah game 5.
Phaneuf isnt elite doe and Scheifele is a beast, he has like 90% of panning out. Anyway Phaneuf for 7th overall is good for both teams, Edmonton needs a good dman to play with Schultz, Toronto needs one more young piece in fwd and I can see them going after a Monahan or Lindholm. One of them with Kadri would be a good 1-2 punch at center in the future, I think Morgan Rielly could be ready in the 14-15 season. And u guys are still in the rebuild, adding a piece like a Lindholm or Monahan (Whos a real beast) would do Toronto some good. Phaneuf can be replaced.
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Quote:Originally posted by WHEELsnipePARTY@Jun 21 2013, 01:00 PM
iif you wouldnt trade phaneuf for a chance at a guy like nurse,domi,nicushkin or zadorov then you should never be a gm Smile
I would take Phaneuf over Domi and Zadorov anyday. I havent heard to much about Niceshkin or Nurse.
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Quote:Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 02:07 PM

I would take Phaneuf over Domi and Zadorov anyday. I havent heard to much about Niceshkin or Nurse.

zadorov sure but the other 3 will be better, nicushkin is a flat out monster that can fly
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Quote:Originally posted by WHEELsnipePARTY@Jun 21 2013, 01:16 PM


zadorov sure but the other 3 will be better, nicushkin is a flat out monster that can fly
Love Domi but no. Phaneuf >

I can't say shit about the other guys as I don't know much about them. I know very little about Nurse but from what I know he sounds great.
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Man the 2013 draft is so solid that Phaneuf is worth a top 10 pick, hes not an all star dman like you think, hes not even top pair on some NHL teams. 7th pick for Phaneuf would be a good deal for both sides.
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Quote:Originally posted by SensNation613@Jun 21 2013, 01:23 PM
Man the 2013 draft is so solid that Phaneuf is worth a top 10 pick, hes not an all star dman like you think, hes not even top pair on some NHL teams. 7th pick for Phaneuf would be a good deal for both sides.
He would be a top pair on most teams. Of course he won't on all because they already have there top pairing...

I'm not saying that's not a good trade value wise. I'm saying it's a bad trade because it pulls us away chance wise for a playoff spot
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