Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 12:56 PM
But ok he might not be terrible but honestly, compare Jay McClemment to him. He's a better play than Horcoff and Horcoff makes like 4 mil more. Horcoff is just not a good player and his cap hit just makes him horrible.

Horcoff produces more Offence.

Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 02:56 PM
But ok he might not be terrible but honestly, compare Jay McClemment to him. He's a better play than Horcoff and Horcoff makes like 4 mil more. Horcoff is just not a good player and his cap hit just makes him horrible.

:lol:

Yeah lets compare 194 points in 601 games to 435 points in 765 games.

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Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 01:37 PM

What do you and Krever not understand. You don't always build toward the future only. Doing this will result in you never being a cup contending team. Yes it will be good in the future but it will hurt us badly right now. Also it takes longer then 1 year for must prospects.

Listen, you can argue however you want but don't say I don't understand how a team is built. I was one in a hundred in terms of people who supported Burke and believe what Burke has done sets up this team for a long time. Dean I know you're a young guy and still learning but I know this team as well as anyone else. Please, show some respect.

Originally posted by Maxy@Jun 21 2013, 03:03 PM

:lol:

Yeah lets compare 194 points in 601 games to 435 points in 765 games.

We arent comparing careers. We are comparing them where they are right now in there career. McClement is agruably the best defensive forward.

Originally posted by jkrever@Jun 21 2013, 03:05 PM

Listen, you can argue however you want but don't say I don't understand how a team is built. I was one in a hundred in terms of people who supported Burke and believe what Burke has done sets up this team for a long time. Dean I know you're a young guy and still learning but I know this team as well as anyone else. Please, show some respect.

I was right there with Burke. I'm still do this day pissed that Burke is gone which is why I'm so pissed with all the rumours and shit that Nonis has been invovled in.

Also don't tell me to show some respect. You're the one who said you don't respect any of my opinions...

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 03:05 PM

We arent comparing careers. We are comparing them where they are right now in there career. McClement is agruably the best defensive forward.

The best defensive forward? You're joking right?

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Originally posted by Maxy@Jun 21 2013, 03:07 PM

The best defensive forward? You're joking right?

I think you could agrue it. He is an amazing defensive forward.

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 03:05 PM

We arent comparing careers. We are comparing them where they are right now in there career. McClement is agruably the best defensive forward.

No hes not lol, Horcoff is still a good 3rd line C, if they used a compliance buyout on him I guarentee about 5 teams would be interested in him.

Its just the money man, hes a good 3rd line guy to have. Edmonton isnt desperate to move him as they arent gonna be in cap trouble for around the next 3 years.

Lol I'm pretty sure McClement was top 5 in Selke votes.

Anyways I wonder who we're gonna draft. I'm hoping Kerby Rychel.

Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 03:09 PM
Lol I'm pretty sure McClement was top 5 in Selke votes.

Anyways I wonder who we're gonna draft. I'm hoping Kerby Rychel.

Fucale <3

Originally posted by Maxy@Jun 21 2013, 03:07 PM

The best defensive forward? You're joking right?

If you're talking purely defense then it's arguable.

Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 03:10 PM


If you're talking purely defense then it's arguable.

I'm talking strictly defense, not talking about offensive numbers.

Originally posted by Taylor@Jun 21 2013, 03:10 PM

Fucale <3

If Fucale falls to 21, that would be great. Him and Rychel and maybe even Horvat if he falls a bit would all be great.

Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 03:11 PM


If Fucale falls to 21, that would be great. Him and Rychel and maybe even Horvat if he falls a bit would all be great.

Horvat looks awesome. My dream is that Domi some how falls to 21st haha. Would love to get that kid.

Originally posted by Wheelz@Jun 21 2013, 03:09 PM
Lol I'm pretty sure McClement was top 5 in Selke votes.

Anyways I wonder who we're gonna draft. I'm hoping Kerby Rychel.

So top 5 votes one year makes him the best defensive forward. Gotcha, makes sense.

I mean guys like Datsyuk, Bergeron, Toews, Kesler ect. run circles around Mcclement. the best defensive forwards also contribute offensively. McClement is not near the best defensive forward in the league

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