04-11-2023, 04:31 PMPremierBromanov Wrote: Henrik you know i love you so please take this in all seriousness and kindness.

This sword cuts both ways. Most of the big players in this world are committing atrocities on a daily basis. Calling it "whataboutism" isn't an argument (not that you have said it, but it's on the tips of tongues). This isn't even distant past. The United States killed millions in the middle east (with support from European countries). We are currently starving millions of Afghanis. We can point to any country and find massive skeletons. The point here isn't that we can't do anything because if we do it to one we have to do it to all. It just represents to me that people care more about this particular atrocity because they're European victims. And that really cuts me. It's selective outrage. And let's be serious, what is more inclusive than welcoming Russian users and players? Are Russians like... Dogshit or something?

We have such a laser focused hatred against the east and that hatred really does manifest itself in real ways, especially towards people from Asian companies.

It just feels like such a narrow, enclosed point of view to want to banish a country (and let's be honest with ourselves). If Russia becomes depleted, then so be it. It happened many times before. But it is not right for us to be the arbiters of what countries are good and proper. Am i meant to stop business with our contractors who are from Russia, or belarus? Or what about me, named after a goofy soviet from a video game?

There's a right and a wrong way to represent any country. Look no further than John Brown. A true American Patriot.  Again, we should be vigilant of people engaging in the Russian larp in a hurtful way, not broad strokes eliminating groups of people.

Yes, if anything a big potential annoyance and honestly my biggest reservation about keeping the name is that now Russia has to filter out edgelords, but they generally seem to be easy enough to find and yeet.

I do think the player render line of thinking raises some interesting conundrums. Like sure a Putin render is probably off limits but what about like Slava Fetisov? He’s a good hockey player and someone who people have positive feelings for but he is also currently a political ally of Putin and a Russian legislator. How do you handle other close political allies or friends of Putin or Russia like Ovechkin or even non-hockey players like Connor MacGregor and Steven Seagal? (if nobody has made a render as him PLEASE do it but it has to be when hes fat)