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[x2 Draft] s71 SHL Production Based Redraft
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(This post was last modified: 05-16-2023, 05:16 AM by hewasajazzman. Edited 1 time in total.)

After the SHL Draft comes to a close it is commonplace to see redraft media so I wanted to take a stab at it. When looking into the draftees, the SHL GMs mostly look into player builds, user earning, and user character… but I wanted to base my redraft off of something that may be slightly overlooked, raw performance. I didn’t want to just give you a list of who scored the most, rather take a look at each individual and their production with the opportunity they were given. So, I took some inspiration from our Fantasy scoring and gathered up some stat categories, set point values to them, then divided the total by the player’s Time on Ice and multiplied that by 60 to give us a score based on that player’s production per 60 minutes. The scoring is as follows: G (goals)> 5, A (assists)> 3, SHT (shots)> 0.5, HIT (hits)> 0.75, SB (shot blocks)> 1, GA (giveaways)> -1, TA (takeways)> 1. I also gave 0.1 points for TOI (time on ice) but I don’t believe that actually did anything other than inflate all of the final scores since I’m dividing by that number anyway. Goalies were sort of difficult and I really didn’t know how to get a good reading when compared to the Skaters. I did a lot of playing around with the scoring until I got what looked like a good spread compared to the Skater’s final scores but I’m not exactly thrilled with it. W (wins)> 20, SO (shutouts)> 10, SV (saves)> 0.25. Again, I added the 0.1 for TOI but I’m decently sure if I got rid of it altogether (meaning for Skaters as well) it would have yielded the same results in terms of redraft order. Unfortunately I think the method I used is weighted heavily in favor of offensive players and doesn’t really reflect how good some players actually were inside of their role. But anyways, more on that after the data…



Round 1 

1. pride San Francisco Pride
Original Pick: RW Levin Schattenaxt Grizzlies
Redraft Pick: RW Bear Trapp Timber (#35 Inferno +34)
G-8. A-14. SHT-44. HIT-59. SB-13. GA-18. TA-9. TOI-368.

2.  Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: LW Mercedes Baylé Elk
Redraft Pick: LW Inactive Forever Whalers (#11 Steelhawks +9)
G-27. A-37. SHT-193. HIT-185. SB-24. GA-49. TA-46. TOI-1361.

3. Blizzard Edmonton Blizzard
Original Pick: LD Furious Chicken Malamutes
Redraft Pick: RW Thomas Liebold Whalers (#12 Platoon +9)
G-18. A-45. SHT-116. HIT-230. SB-47. GA-41. TA-35. TOI-1348.

4. pride San Francisco Pride
Original Pick: RW Logan Webb Knights
Redraft Pick: LW Shootin Blanks Timber (#15 Stampede +11)
G-12. A-22. SHT-81. HIT-112. SB-14. GA-25. TA-15. TOI-710.

5. pride San Francisco Pride
Original Pick: C Dominik Winters Scarecrows
Redraft Pick: LW Johnny FourStar Whalers (#19 Aurora +14)
G-18. A-37. SHT-110. HIT-182. SB-43. GA-44. TA-40. TOI-1234.

6. Panthers Los Angeles Panthers
Original Pick: LW Oliver Castillon Raptors
Redraft Pick: LW Mercedes Baylé Elk (#2 Stars -4)
G-22. A-31. SHT-169. HIT-156. SB-11. GA-33. TA-37. TOI-1217.

7. Platoon Baltimore Platoon
Original Pick: LD Bellamy Blake Whalers
Redraft Pick: RW Brock Samson Battleborn (#47 Platoon +40)
G-10. A-26. SHT-119. HIT-132. SB-28. GA-48. TA-18. TOI-826.

8. Barracuda Tampa Bay Barracuda
Original Pick: C Max Carnage Battleborn
Redraft Pick: RW Theodore Svatos Malamutes (#69 Blizzard +61)
G-27. A-29. SHT-188. HIT-169. SB-15. GA-63. TA-29. TOI-1260.

9. Platoon Baltimore Platoon
Original Pick: LD Jay Bryzi Scarecrows
Redraft Pick: RW Luke Labrie Berserkers (#89 Renegades +80)
G-7. A-35. SHT-123. HIT-195. SB-47. GA-43. TA-24. TOI-1123.

10. Monarchs Minnesota Monarchs
Original Pick: LW Marshall Madden Scarecrows
Redraft Pick: LD Bellamy Blake Whalers (#7 Platoon -3)
G-15. A-37. SHT-130. HIT-120. SB-87. GA-10. TA-82. TOI-1524.

11. Steelhawks Hamilton Steelhawks
Original Pick: LW Inactive Forever Whalers
Redraft Pick: RW Andren Akerson Grizzlies (#24 Panthers +13)
G-6. A-33. SHT-64. HIT-195. SB-31. GA-37. TA-42. TOI-1051.

12. Platoon Baltimore Platoon
Original Pick: RW Thomas Liebold Whalers
Redraft Pick: G Scary Jerry Raptors (#34 Wolfpack +22)
W-13. SO-1. SV-502. TOI-1217.

13. Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: LW Andre Latreille Grizzlies
Redraft Pick: RW Jordan Tanner Malamutes (#29 Renegades +16)
G-20. A-22. SHT-151. HIT-144. SB-22. GA-43. TA-36. TOI-1123.

14. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: LD Mick Mayhem Timber
Redraft Pick: LW Heem Team Berserkers (#41 Stars +27)
G-6. A-9. SHT-65. HIT-67. SB-3. GA-15. TA-15. TOI-459.

15. Stampede Buffalo Stampede
Original Pick: LW Shootin Blanks Timber
Redraft Pick: RW Logan Webb Knights (#4 pride -11)
G-21. A-26. SHT-127. HIT-130. SB-21. GA-55. TA-39. TOI-1133.

16. Steelhawks Hamilton Steelhawks
Original Pick: C Thomas Sawschuk Battleborn
Redraft Pick: C Erik Erikson Berserkers (#25 Rage +11)
G-26. A-23. SHT-157. HIT-73. SB-15. GA-47. TA-41. TOI-1111.

17. Wolfpack New England Wolfpack
Original Pick: RD Adelbert Steiner Berserkers
Redraft Pick: C Thomas Sawschuk Battleborn (#16 Steelhawks -1)
G-27. A-18. SHT-161. HIT-97. SB-36. GA-56. TA-51. TOI-1231.

18. Forge Philadelphia Forge
Original Pick: LW Barg Hazbite Armada
Redraft Pick: LW Filip Svatos Kraken (#22 Barracuda +4)
G-16. A-38. SHT-133. HIT-166. SB-18. GA-51. TA-30. TOI-1261.

19. Aurora Winnipeg Aurora
Original Pick: LW Johnny FourStar Whalers
Redraft Pick: LD Shnopple Lopple Battleborn (#28 Rage +9)
G-8. A-26. SHT-147. HIT-131. SB-65. GA-15. TA-52. TOI-1316.

20. Monarchs Minnesota Monarchs
Original Pick: LD Boho Biscuit Elk
Redraft Pick: LW Oliver Castillon Raptors (#6 Panthers -14)
G-16. A-30. SHT-109. HIT-110. SB-38. GA-39. TA-32. TOI-1153.

Round 2

21. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: LW Alexej Kastrba Kraken
Redraft Pick: LW Andre Latreille (#13 Stars -8)
G-14. A-25. SHT-141. HIT-178. SB-17. GA-53. TA-36. TOI-1193.

22. Barracuda Tampa Bay Barracuda
Original Pick: LW Filip Svatos Kraken
Redraft Pick: RW Levin Schattenaxt Grizzlies (#1 pride -21)
G-9. A-29. SHT-93. HIT-217. SB-35. GA-41. TA-27. TOI-1251.

23. syndicate Chicago Syndicate
Original Pick: RW Just-to-Buy My-Love Elk
Redraft Pick: C Max Carnage Battleborn (#8 Barracuda -15)
G-24. A-18. SHT-142. HIT-91. SB-31. GA-53. TA-41. TOI-1153.

24. Panthers  Los Angeles Panthers
Original Pick: RW Andren Akerson Grizzlies
Redraft Pick: LW Matt Stro Kraken (#39 Stars +15)
G-6. A-30. SHT-107. HIT-163. SB-43. GA-49. TA-44. TOI-1183.

25. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: C Erik Erikson Berserkers
Redraft Pick: LW Alexej Kastrba Kraken (#21 Rage -4)
G-8. A-32. SHT-105. HIT-153. SB-44. GA-47. TA-39. TOI-1203.

26. Monarchs Minnesota Monarchs
Original Pick: C Kevin Kim Knights
Redraft Pick: LD David Anderson Raptors (#42 Barracuda +16)
G-7. A-23. SHT-84. HIT-69. SB-62. GA-10. TA-31. TOI-1006.

27. Platoon Baltimore Platoon
Original Pick: LD Ryan Quintana-Green Whalers
Redraft Pick: RD Merle Van Nistelrooy Timber (#50 Rage +23)
G-6. A-29. SHT-121. HIT-101. SB-65. GA-16. TA-57. TOI-1309.

28. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: LD Shnopple Lopple Battleborn
Redraft Pick: C Dominik Winters Scarecrows (#5 pride -23)
G-11. A-33. SHT-108. HIT-76. SB-66. GA-33. TA-63. TOI-1355.

29. Renegades Texas Renegades
Original Pick: RW Jordan Tanner Malamutes
Redraft Pick: G Ally Mathieson Elk (#55 Inferno +26)
W-17. SO-2. SV-1042. TOI-2348.

30. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: G Net Man Citadelles
Redraft Pick: LW Finn Weiss Armada (#32 Stampede +2)
G-15. A-22. SHT-159. HIT-103. SB-32. GA-43. TA-29. TOI-1202.

31. Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: RW Crystal McLeod Knights
Redraft Pick: RD Adelbert Steiner Berserkers (#17 Wolfpack -14)
G-10. A-21. SHT-104. HIT-125. SB-86. GA-18. TA-46. TOI-1424.

32. Stampede Buffalo Stampede
Original Pick: LW Finn Weiss Armada
Redraft Pick: RD Aaron Ranger (#49 Renegades +17)
G-9. A-18. SHT-107. HIT-124. SB-76. GA-23. TA-32. TOI-1266.

33. Dragons Calgary Dragons
Original Pick: RD Bob Wehadababyitsaboy Whalers
Redraft Pick: LD Ryan Quintana-Green Whalers (#27 Platoon -6)
G-6. A-18. SHT-101. HIT-89. SB-49. GA-10. TA-48. TOI-1106.

34. Wolfpack New England Wolfpack
Original Pick: G Scary Jerry Raptors
Redraft Pick: C Morgan Delfield Timber (#45 Rage +11)
G-13. A-15. SHT-87. HIT-55. SB-10. GA-23. TA-11. TOI-745.

35. Inferno Atlanta Inferno
Original Pick: RW Bear Trapp Timber
Redraft Pick: RD Sillysauce McTartersauce Timber (#62 Barracuda +27)
G-4. A-30. SHT-114. HIT-77. SB-72. GA-10. TA-44. TOI-1290.

36. Forge Philadelphia Forge
Original Pick: LD Johnny Shuffleboard Armada
Redraft Pick: RW Aumy Junior II Kraken (#38 Stars +2)
G-11. A-19. SHT-135. HIT-141 SB-15. GA-16. TA-26. TOI-1213.

38. Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: RW Aumy Jr II Kraken
Redraft Pick: LW Marshall Madden Scarecrows (#10 Monarchs -28)
G-13. A-15. SHT-131. HIT-174. SB-46. GA-49. TA-32. TOI-1325.

39. Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: LW Matt Stro Kraken
Redraft Pick: LD Mick Mayhem Timber (#14 Rage -25)
G-7. A-19. SHT-102. HIT-88. SB-76. GA-14. TA-54. TOI-1331.

Round 3

41. Stars Toronto North Stars
Original Pick: LW Heem Team Berserkers
Redraft Pick: LW Barg Hazbite Armada (#18 Forge -23)
G-14. A-16. SHT-134. HIT-118. SB-18. GA-33. TA-28. TOI-1176.

42. Barracuda Tampa Bay Barracuda
Original Pick: LD David Anderson Raptors
Redraft Pick: LD Boho Biscuit Elk (#20 Monarchs -22)
G-5. A-18. SHT-64. HIT-69. SB-55. GA-6. TA-25. TOI-987.

43. Panthers Los Angeles Panthers
Original Pick: RD Might-go IA Malamutes
Redraft Pick: RW Just-to-Buy My-Love Elk (#23 syndicate -20)
G-10. A-27. SHT-121. HIT-144. SB-35 GA-66. TA-39. TOI-1289.

45. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: C Morgan Delfield Timber
Redraft Pick: RD Might-go IA Malamutes (#43 Panthers -2)
G-9. A-19. SHT-98. HIT-86. SB-79. GA-12. TA-30. TOI-1316.

46. Monarchs Minnesota Monarchs
Original Pick: G Kyle Baretto Scarecrows
Redraft Pick: RD Bob Wehadababyitsaboy Whalers (#33 Dragons -13)
G-6. A-23. SHT-68. HIT-111. SB-79. GA-16. TA-85. TOI-1537.

47. Platoon Baltimore Platoon
Original Pick: RW Brock Samson Battleborn
Redraft Pick: RW Crystal McLeod Knights (#31 Stars -16)
G-5. A-19. SHT-61. HIT-158. SB-48. GA-42. TA-36. TOI-1171.

49. Renegades Texas Renegades
Original Pick: RD Aaron Ranger Kraken
Redraft Pick: C Larry Johnson The 3rd Whalers (#54 Dragons +5)
G-15. A-20. SHT-137. HIT-76. SB-15. GA-38. TA-31. TOI-1153.

50. Rage Manhattan Rage
Original Pick: RD Merle Van Nistelrooy Timber
Redraft Pick: LD Johnny Shuffleboard Armada (#36 Forge -14)
G-3. A-5. SHT-36. HIT-18. SB-8. GA-2. TA-26. TOI-405.

54. Dragons Calgary Dragons
Original Pick: C Larry Johnson The 3rd Whalers
Redraft Pick: LD Jay Bryzi Scarecrows (#9 Platoon -45)
G-5. A-12. SHT-92. HIT-125. SB-95. GA-14. TA-55. TOI-1476.

55. Inferno Atlanta Inferno
Original Pick: G Ally Mathieson Elk
Redraft Pick: G Net Man Citadelles (#30 Rage -25)
W-6. SO-1. SV-757. TOI-1475.

Round 4

62. Barracuda Tampa Bay Barracuda
Original Pick: RD Sillysauce McTartersauce Timber
Redraft Pick: C Crazy Tomato Malamutes (#82 Barracuda +20)
G-5. A-9. SHT-40. HIT-40. SB-24. GA-25. TA-17. TOI-551.

69. Blizzard Edmonton Blizzard
Original Pick: RW Theodore Svatos Malamutes
Redraft Pick: LD Furious Chicken Malamutes (#3 Blizzard -66)
G-2. A-17. SHT-86. HIT-116. SB-68. GA-36. TA-63. TOI-1338.

Round 5

82. Barracuda Tampa Bay Barracuda
Original Pick: C Crazy Tomato Malamutes
Redraft Pick: C Todd Bowers Scarecrows (#109 Renegades +27)
G-6. A-12. SHT-72. HIT-80. SB-42. GA-36. TA-49. TOI-1152.

89. Renegades Texas Renegades
Original Pick: RW Luke Labrie Berserkers
Redraft Pick: G Kyle Baretto Scarecrows (#49 Monarchs -40)
W-5. SO-2. SV-929. TOI-1908.

Round 6

109. Renegades Texas Renegades
Original Pick: C Todd Bowers Scarecrows
Redraft Pick: C Kevin Kim Knights (#26 Monarchs -83)
G-2. A-5. SHT-29. HIT-19. SB-5. GA-10. TA-4. TOI-309.

Data

Furthest Climb: LD Jay Bryzi Scarecrows #89>#9
Furthest Fall: C Kevin Kim Knights #26>#109
Closest to the Mark: C Thomas Sawschuk Battleborn #16>#17
Stayed with the Team: RW Brock Samson Platoon, LW Alexej Kastrba Rage, C Crazy Tomato Barracuda, LD Furious Chicken Blizzard



First thing I noticed once I sorted all my data is that 1oa pick. I thought: man, my metrics must be really flawed. Buuuuuttt, looking into it you can clearly see that Bear Trapp is just a madman. Dude’s on almost a PPG pace while playing in just a third of the games this season and seeing bottom line minutes. Who’s to say how Trapp would perform with more minutes… but, as far as this data goes, he is the man. What I think is funny is that on the complete opposite end of the spectrum at 109oa sits Kevin Kim who has similarly low TOI. Something else that sticks out to me are picks like Theodor Svatos, taken at 69oa since he is a GM yet performing in the top 10. I see something like Bob Wehadababyitsaboy down at #46 and know if i do something like this again I’ll have to improve upon my method. I don’t think teams are waiting that long to take a Rookie Defenseman who led their league in Takeaways. Vancouver trusted him enough to give him the most minutes out of anyone on the list and unfortunately that hurt him since he doesn’t have the highest stats elsewhere. I’m not exactly sure what I could do to balance things out for players like Defensive Defensemen but I definitely would like to find a more concise way to represent the skill of any type of player should I decide to do something like this again. I was pretty aware of these issues, and the Goalie scoring dilemma, but by that time I was so deep into it I had to just keep on truckin through. I would definitely like to add some other stat categories, especially for the Goalies. I'd also likely change the way I determined the +/- of compared draft position since using draft overall positions can inflate that number. What I did like is that my final scores were pretty tight, ranging from roughly 16 to 30 with an average of about 22, meaning there were just a few outliers at the top. It’s not perfect but it’s… uhh… something. Oh, and of course my player still ends up in Manhattan!

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Cool to see! But yeah those who joined later in the season are disadvantaged, but it's not too late for them!

For Bob Wehadababyitsaboy, he already said that he won't play in the SHL, so that's why he was picked so low.

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Pick 69, nice
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05-16-2023, 11:45 AMFuriousChicken Wrote: Pick 69, nice

How dare you stand where I stood!

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05-16-2023, 09:27 AMAnthique Wrote: Cool to see! But yeah those who joined later in the season are disadvantaged, but it's not too late for them!

For Bob Wehadababyitsaboy, he already said that he won't play in the SHL, so that's why he was picked so low.
oh yeah, infi is one of the people im closest to when it comes to sim leagues. im saying that you likely wouldnt see his player be taken so low if the draft was based purely on player skill, so my metrics arent the best.
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TIL that Dave created a model specifically to pick on me  Crybaby




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05-16-2023, 03:05 PM39alaska39 Wrote: TIL that Dave created a model specifically to pick on me  Crybaby
or was it just to get you back on the rage with me? Hmm
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