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Draft Night to Draft Night



One of the hottest topics over the last few weeks in both the SHL and the SMJHL were their respective entry drafts. After this week’s SMJHL draft, we have seen a ton of players asserting that their ranking within the draft order is simply preposterous. From rookies to recreates, everyone seems to feel slighted. “I was selected too low”. “I was the best player at my position and teams seemed to turn their cheek and select others before I was finally taken”. We’ve heard it all. Don’t believe me, check out some of the articles published over the last few days in SMJHL hubs around the world. Players everywhere are upset about the lack of trust general managers showed in their ability to produce.



Let’s get one thing out on the table, any draft, be it juniors or professional is ultimately a crapshoot. General managers hedge their knowledge and respect against the sheer assumption that a player will be successful within their organization and the league as a whole. There is no way, on draft night, to be absolutely, positively, certain that a player is going to be successful when you offer him the opportunity to dawn that jersey. From time to time, players bust. And other times, players flourish. The purpose of this article will be to look at the top 5 selections in eachSMJHL drafts between S10 and S15 (SHL Drafts S11-S16) and see where they landed in the big league draft, the SHL Entry Draft, the following season. This window of drafts gives a better perspective of players who have not only been drafted in both leagues, but offers a recent class of players who most in the league are familiar with. It makes assessing the picks in both leagues more feasible with the “eye-ball test”. It also eliminates those players who are very early in their career and any talent assessment would likely be speculation.



For all you rookies out there in the SHL universe who are concerned that you weren’t picked as high as you might have liked, consider this a window to view your fate as either a curse or a blessing. For all of you SHL stars out there who fell outside the first round of the junior draft, this is your opportunity to speak up and proclaim “I was not only a second round selection in juniors, I was a 4th round pick in the SHL Entry Draft. Last season, I led my team in scoring!” Give ‘em hell SHL, give ‘em hell!




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The S10 NWJHL Entry Draft & The S11 SHL Entry Draft



The ten rounds of the S10 North West Junior Hockey League Draft is filled with players who are today SHL mainstays. This draft included the likes of Brandon Cant, Kyle Keenan, and Mike Verminski outside of the first round. Let’s take a look at the selections:



With the first overall pick in the S10 NWJHL Draft, the Montreal Impact selected: Roman Schultz

With the second overall pick in the S10 NWJHL Draft, the Detroit Falcons selected: Brandon Donini

With the third overall pick in the S10 NWJHL Draft, the Chicago Hitmen selected: Benoit Fortescue

With the fourth overall pick in the S10 NWJHL Draft, the Montreal Impact selected: Rehn Miller

With the fifth overall pick in the S10 NWJHL Draft, the Price George Firebirds selected: Emma Watson



Likely, if you are an SHL vet, these are all relatively recognizable names. Each have had success in the SHL to some degree. Of course, they may not have all reached their potential, but others have seemingly exceeded expectations. Let’s take a look at how a season in juniors fared for these five when they finally hit the SHL Draft circuit.



In the SHL Draft:

First overall pick, Roman Schultz, fell a grand total of four spots (-4) to the Hamilton Steelhawks when they selected him 5th overall in the Season 11 SHL Entry Draft. After a season in juniors, Schultz’ scouts felt that he was no longer the top player in his draft class, but he was most certainly still a worthy selection in the first round for Montreal.



Second overall selection, Brandon Donini, feel only one spot (-1) in the Season 11 SHL Entry Draft. He was selected 3rd overall by the Winnipeg Jets. Again, after a season’s worth of play in juniors, Donini’s stock had fallen ever so slightly. GMs in Detroit had proved to be correct about his first round talent and he has flourished into an established player in the SHL since.



Third overall pick, Benoit Fortescue, is the first player of these 5 to make a jump in the rankings. With the 2nd selection in the Season 11 SHL Entry Draft, the West Kendall Platoon selected the Chicago product. A single spot jump (+1) proves again that NWJHL GMs had the right idea at the birth of the Season 10. Fortescue’s performance and growth made him worthy of a top 5 pick yet again.



Fourth overall selection, Rehn Miller, was drafted in the exact same position in the SHL draft as he was in the NWJHL draft a season earlier. After being selected 4th overall by the Montreal Impact, Rehn was selected 4th overall again, but this time by the Hamilton Steelhawks of the SHL (0). Rehn has proved to be a valuable selection for both organizations and has been a Steelhawk for life.



Fifth overall selection, Emma Watson, suffered the biggest fall of any of these top 5 players. Watson fell to the 12th pick in the SHL Entry Draft to the Minnesota Chiefs (-7). If there is any evidence that the talent scouts in juniors may have made a mistake on a player, this might be it; however, Watson has proceeded to play successfully in the SHL ever since and is still likely regarded by many as a valuable first round selection.



To this point, it seems like GMs in juniors have a good idea of which talent will pan out throughout the season and beyond. Let’s take a look at the following year and its drafts.



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The S11 NWJHL Entry Draft & The S12 SHL Entry Draft



The S11 North West Junior Hockey League Draft is another draft with a few with names you’re likely to hear or have heard while listening to games on the radio or watching the broadcast from your couch. Outside of the top 5 in this draft class were the likes of Erik Lehner, Claude Perron and Jrue Harden



With the first overall pick in the S11 NWJHL Draft, the Kelowna Knights selected: Alexy Kovalenko

With the second overall pick in the S11 NWJHL Draft, the Detroit Falcons selected: Ace Faulkner

With the third overall pick in the S11 NWJHL Draft, the Vancouver Whalers selected: Wolf Vranitsky

With the fourth overall pick in the S11 NWJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Ingemar Dahlquist

With the fifth overall pick in the S11 NWJHL Draft, the Chicago Hitmen selected: DuJuan Cook



This draft was A LOT less deep than the previous draft, but still had some players worth remembering. In Season 11, the NWJHL had a supplemental free agency draft due to the large influx of players that came in post-draft. Most of those players are unrecognizable to your everyday SHL junkie. Let’s take a look at how the S12 SHL Entry Draft treated these top 5 rookies.



In the SHL Draft:

First overall selection, Alexy Kovalenko, didn’t go very far from his original draft spot when moving from the NWJHL to the SHL. In fact, Kovalenko was selected first overall again on his way into the SHL. The West Kendall Platoon took the rough and tough forward first overall for a neutral change in overall draft ranking (0). Kovalenko has since had great success for multiple franchises throughout the SHL and continues to be a name you will hear on broadcast shows nightly.



Second overall selection, Ace Faulkner, failed to move an inch as well. After being selected as the 2nd overall pick by Detroit in juniors, Faulkner was selected 2nd overall in the S12 SHL Entry Draft by the Hartford Hydras where he would spend every year of his career aside from the final one (0). Faulkner was an SHL all-star caliber player and is proof, once again, that both junior and professional GMs have a solid idea of evaluating that first round talent.



Third overall pick, Wolf Vranitsky, is the first evidence that something might be astray with the talent teams in juniors. Vranitsky failed to be selected in the S12 SHL Entry Draft (from what I can tell?) for an overall drop of, well…infinity. This is the first evidence we have against GMs logic, but I can’t imagine that something normal occurred with Vranitsky failing to be selected by any SHL team at all. (Can anyone tell me if this was a GM auto-draft?)



Fourth overall selection, Ingemar Dahlquist, is another victim of some high junior upside and a little bit less trust from the GMs in the SHL. Dahlquist fell to the 7th overall selection (-4) in the S12 SHL Entry Draft, where he was selected by the Los Angeles Panthers. This drop is not significant enough to raise eyebrows again, as the influx of players joining the NWJHL mid-season really made the SHL draft much more of a competitive scene than the NWJHL entry draft.



Fifth overall pick, DuJuan Cook, found himself in a very similar situation to Dahlquist. After a top 5 overall selection in juniors, he was selected 8th overall (-3) by the Manhattan Rage in the entry draft. However, Cook may prove to be one of the biggest mistakes made by both junior and SHL general managers. After a few season, it became obvious in Manhattan that both Chicago and their own scouts had been wrong about the prospect and Cook was never destined to be a first round caliber player in the SHL.



Outside of the Wolf Vranitsky outlier, this set of drafts is just further proof that the talent assessors for both leagues tend to have similar ideas about the players that will be successful going forward. Let’s have a look at the next season’s draft to further the investigation and sample size.



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The S12 NWJHL Entry Draft & The S13 SHL Entry Draft



The S12 NWJHL Entry Draft was filled with a little more firepower than the draft previous. The S12 draft included names, like the two previous draft that went on to be successful in the SHL. Jim Lahey, OJ Simpson and Lauris Prikulis were all selected outside of the first round. Again, like the season before, the draft was not incredibly deep with talent but surely left some pieces for SHL GMs to desire a season later.





With the first overall pick in the S12 NWJHL Draft, the Detroit Falcons selected: Tuomas Vitkka

With the second overall pick in the S12 NWJHL Draft, the Kelowna Knights selected: Rufus Reinhart

With the third overall pick in the S12 NWJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Christian Bauer

With the fourth overall pick in the S12 NWJHL Draft, the Chicago Hitmen selected: Matthew Buchesner

With the fifth overall pick in the S12 NWJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Isabella Esparaza





In the SHL Draft:

After being selected first overall by the Detroit Falcons, Tuomas Vitkka was selected 3rd (-2) in the SHL Entry Draft by the West Kendall Platoon. After an incredible amount of hype behind him in juniors, Vitkka fell very slightly and ended up being a decent selection for West Kendall. With a fairly shortened career due to some controversy, Vitkka was never much above a “good” SHL player, but both sets of GMs (junior and professional) seemed to have the same ceiling set for the young winger.



Rufus Reinhart didn’t go far from his second overall selection in juniors. In fact, in the S13 Entry draft, he was selected 4th overall to play with fellow draftee Vitkka in West Kendall(-2). With back to back selections at 3 and 4, West Kendall grabbed the top 2 projected players from the season prior. Reinhart went on to be worthy of this selection in the SHL as well.



Third overall selection, Christian Bauer, jumped right up to the top of the ranks as he entered the SHL Draft. With the first overall pick (+2) in the S13 SHL Entry Draft, Minnesota selected the winger to be the next face of the franchise. Bauer is the first jump we’ve seen in this group of top 5 junior selection and manages to even out some of the falling we’ve seen from the previous too. Christian’s minimal climb seems to suggest that, again, junior GMs have a pretty solid idea of how their talent is going to pan out just a season later and going forward.



Fourth overall pick, Matthew Buchesner, made another jump to help even out the average of this group. Buchesner hopped up to the second overall position (+2) when he was selected by the Las Vegas Kings in the draft. Buchesner and Bauer’s jump in draft position makes this group now, on aggregate, a perfect 0 in talent assessment by GMs.



Isabella Esparaza helps to keep this aggregate score perfect for this group, as she is selected in the 5th overall selection in both the NWJHL Draft and the SHL Draft. With the 5th selection in the SHL Draft, Esparaza was selected by the Las Vegas Kings, who like the Platoon, had the opportunity to scoop up two picks in the top five.



This draft is likely the most convincing evidence to date that junior GMs have a solid grip on talent projections. Summing the total rises and falls of these top 5 players gives us a total of 0. This could suggest that each of these players had either a perfectly equal basis of talent and therefore no order was perfect for them. Regardless, all 5 fit perfectly within the assumption that top 5 picks in the junior draft will again be top 5 worthy picks when the SHL draft rolls around a season later.



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The S13 NWJHL Entry Draft & The S14 SHL Entry Draft



The S13 draft was incredibly deep in the NWJHL. The top 5 selections were some big names (at the time), but outside of these selections was some real talent as well. The NWJHL was blessed to have Carter O’Callahan, Belail, Daniel Merica, Ammon Tutankamun and Gabriel DuJardin as part of this solid class. Let’s take a look at the top 5.



With the first overall pick in the S13 NWJHL Draft, the Chicago Hitmen selected: Marian Potoczny

With the second overall pick in the S13 NWJHL Draft, the Detroit Falcons selected: Ryan Bolt

With the third overall pick in the S13 NWJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Chuck Winnfield

With the fourth overall pick in the S13 NWJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Enrich Brundahl

With the fifth overall pick in the S13 NWJHL Draft, the Kelowna Knights selected: Sergei Zherdev



Some solid names here; let’s see how these names faired a season later on their way to the SHL.



In the SHL Draft:



First overall selection, Marian Potoczny, is another example of a falling player who really didn’t have that far to fall. Potoczny was quickly scooped up second overall (-1) in the S13 SHL Entry Draft by the Los Angeles Panthers. Los Angeles has been the beneficiary since, as Potoczny has become one of their most reliable pieces at forward since this draft. Everyone knew Poto was likely to be successful in both juniors and the pros, nobody was making a mistake here.



Ryan Bolt is another top 5 pick who managed a mysterious disappearance (Don’t worry guys, I know the real story on this one). After being selected 2nd overall in the junior draft, Bolt went undrafted in the SHL and gives us another one of those peculiar outliers. After being selected 2nd on his way into the NWJHL draft, Bolt’s draft to draft score becomes negative infinity.



The third overall selection, Chuck Winnfield, made the big jump to first overall (+2). After a season in Prince George, Winnfield had showed the New England Wolfpack enough to warrant the first overall draft selection. Today, nobody questions Prince George’s or New England’s decision in taking Chuck so high. Winnfield is a household name and one of the most recognizable faces on the blue line in the SHL.



Fourth overall selection, Enrich Brundahl, is the first REAL evidence we can find to suggest that mistakes happen in the NWJHL draft. Brundal, after being highly touted as a rookie, fell all the way to the Las Vegas Kings in the third round of the SHL Entry Draft. In just one season Brundahl went from being a 4th overall selection to the 28th overall pick (-24). It’s fair to say that after Prince George struck gold with Winnfield, they really made a “whoopsie” with Brundahl here.



Our fifth overall selection, Sergei Zherdev, took the Ryan Bolt route out of juniors and into the SHL. After being selected fifth overall, Zherdev failed to be drafted into the SHL. (Again, I know the real reason for this! Don’t burn me at the stake just yet.) And again, we have another outlier with negative infinity positions from draft to draft, yawn.



Thus far, this might be the only evidence to suggest that talent assessment isn’t near perfect in the NWJHL and SHL. SHL GMs seem to be pretty keen on taking those players drafted highly and making them top draft picks again. This set is altered by 2 large outliers and the biggest disappointment thus far with Brundahl. One single mistake out of 20 top drafted players is a pretty good percentage for SHL GMs though (95%)



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The S14 SMJHL Entry Draft & The S15 SHL Entry Draft



The S14 SMJHL Entry Draft was another one of those years that fluxuation really affected the league. A smaller number of players came out for the draft and as a result, the player set was weaker in general. Outside of the first round, only a few players have really shown up in the SHL. Those names being Lionel Byrde, Jermaine Tennyson, CJ James and Krists Zommers.



With the first overall pick in the S14 SMJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Logan Court

With the second overall pick in the S14 SMJHL Draft, the Detroit Falcons selected: Victor Helstrom

With the third overall pick in the S14 SMJHL Draft, the St. Louis Scarecrows selected: Mikhail Krivokrasov

With the fourth overall pick in the S14 SMJHL Draft, the Detoit Falcons selected: Randy Bobandy

With the fifth overall pick in the S14 SMJHL Draft, the Kelowna Knights selected: Bo Giroux



In the SHL Draft:



First overall selection, Logan Court, made quick work of the SHL Draft as he was again selected first overall (0) by the Tornoto North Stars. After a season in juniors, Court had lived up to expectations and was worthy of the top pick yet again. Court went into a powerful Toronto team for the future.



Second overall selection, Victor Helstrom, was selected by the Los Angeles Panthers at the 4th overall position (-2) in the SHL draft in the season after he was drafted to juniors. Helstrom continues to add to the evidence that GMs are on the same page, I won’t beat a dead horse. He only dropped two spots.



Mikhail Krivokrasov was one of the upward movers in this class of top 5 SMJHL draftees. After a season of work in St. Louis, Mikhail jumped up to the second overall selection (+1) when Edmonton decided to call his name on draft night. Krivokrasov didn’t move very far, as has become the pattern that a few picks upward or downward is reasonable.



Randy Bobandy, the 4th overall selection in the prior seasons SMJHL draft, is some more support for those out there that believe GMs in juniors struggle with talent assessment. Bobandy fell all the way to the second round before he was scooped up by the Edmonton Blizzard at 16th overall (-12). Bobandy’s high selection in juniors likely came as a result of his good relationship with Detroit’s management at the time. Detroit likely felt that the ceiling for Bobandy was a little higher than realistic expectations, but this is the second most severe fall we’ve seen thus far.



The fifth selection off the board, Bo Giroux, is another top 5 selection that failed to be drafted into the SHL. In what was thought to be an outlier, these large falls into the SHL abyss are starting to become habit. Again, Giroux adds a large negative infinity to the aggregate total of the group and leaves some anti-SMJHL GM parties with ammunition.



Aside from the final two, this is what we have come to expect with these draft to draft assessments. Krivokrasov, Helstrom and Court all hovered right around the same draft selection area. Bobandy however, gives a little bit more firepower to those who really want to believe that they’ve been slighted on draft day in juniors.



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The S15 SMJHL Entry Draft & The S16 SHL Entry Draft



The S15 SMJHL Entry Draft has some talent in it. It is not as deep as some of the drafts that have come before it, but it isn’t nearly as week as others either. It falls somewhere in the middle. These are the most recent members of the SHL that we will look at, so the jury is likely still out on some of these players. But, although early, it is easy to see that some later round selections within the SMJHL draft are having impacts on their SHL teams. Players like Peter Parker, Azriel Stryfe, Sterling Slade and Niklas Stryker have quickly flourished into competitive SHL players.



With the first overall pick in the S15 SMJHL Draft, the Kelowna Knights selected: Maxim Horvat

With the second overall pick in the S15 SMJHL Draft, the Montreal Impact selected: Joshua Toevs

With the third overall pick in the S15 SMJHL Draft, the St. Louis Scarecrows selected: Jarrko Kallestrom

With the fourth overall pick in the S15 SMJHL Draft, the Vancouver Whalers selected: Slava Boominen

With the fifth overall pick in the S15 SMJHL Draft, the Prince George Firebirds selected: Dustin Rose



In the SHL Draft:



Horvat wasted no time coming off the board in either of the two drafts. After being the first overall selection (0) in juniors, he was again the top selection when the Winnipeg Jets decided his services were too good to pass up. Horvat jumped right into the mix during juniors and solidified his spot atop the S16 SHL Draft class.



Toevs, after being selected second overall by the Impact, disappeared and was not a member of the S16 SHL Draft Class. Another one of those crazy outliers that seems to present itself in each draft.



The third overall selection, Jarrko Kallestrom, keeps the disappearing act alive as he was also not a member of the S16 Draft Class. After being a top selection for the junior general managers, Kallestrom gives a large negative impact to the top 5’s results.



Slava Boominen was the fourth selection in the SMJHL Entry Draft and didn’t fall too far on SHL Draft Day. After a solid season in Vancouver, the Winnipeg Jets jumped up and grabbed Boomy with the 5th overall selection (-1) in S16. Boominen is just another piece of the large puzzle put together to suggest that top picks tend to stay top picks.



Our 25th and final player, Dustin Rose, follows right along with the pattern of the rest of this draft class. After becoming a top pick in the junior draft, Rose went undrafted and directly affects the overall aggregate score of his draft class. After a solid season in juniors, Rose is now a mainstay for the reigning SHL Challenge Cup Champion Seattle Riot.



This draft class was highly affected by the GM auto-draft rule and therefore, it is not quite as convincing.

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Let’s take a look at the total results. When considering these final results, there are a few things to consider. First, the mean and median values of the data set are almost always going to be negative values for a set like this. Don’t let that fool you. Although it might suggest that GMs in juniors are drafting players too high, you have to consider the data which we have collected. When taking only the top 5 selections in the junior draft into consideration, the movement values are structured in a way that is restricting. While a player CAN move upward in the draft the following year, that climb is limited. At the most, a player could move up from the fifth overall selection to the first overall selection (+4). However, in the other direction (downward) there is no limit to how far a player might fall. A player selected first overall could be anywhere from second overall to undrafted (-1 to –inf). All of this causes a slightly negative skew to the data. I would argue, for these purposes that an average around -4 or -5 would be a strong indication that first round selections in juniors are arguably still worthy of a top selection a year later. So, let’s take a look at the aggregate data and some statistics.



Here are all of the compiled movement figures (ignoring those players who were undrafted due to the GM auto-draft rule):

(-4,-1,1,0,-7,0,0,-4,-3,-2,+2,+2,0,-1,+2,-24,0,-2,1,-12,0,-1)



As we can see, the bulk of players are selected within 4 positions of their original draft position in juniors. With only two strong outliers in the 24 spot plummet and 12 spot fall discussed above. Now let’s take a look at the statistical figures.



Average: -2.41 draft positions

Median: -0.5 draft positions



If you consider these to be fair indicators of an assessment of talent from one draft to another, it is pretty convincing evidence that players drafted early in juniors are found to be worthy of top selections a year later. Scouts normally don’t screw up a second time. Now, this data set includes two pieces that we would identify as outliers. Now, these outliers are certainly in favor of those critics who believe that the later round players deserved higher selections. If we remove these two outliers, as will sometimes be done by statistician to remove excessive skewedness here are the new stats:



Average: -0.85 draft positions

Median: 0 draft positions



With the severe outliers removed from the data, we’ve got even more convincing data that top picks are deserving of that honor. With less than a single position drop being the average among top draft choices, there is some suggestion that GMs generally get it right with their top 5 choices. Feel free to draw your own conclusions based on these pieces of data and maybe even project some of the most recent draft picks in the SMJHL to their position on the draft board next season.



Outside of all of this assessment is every pick beyond the top 5. In the SHL, there are plenty of stories of players who are drafted outside of the top 5 picks and become superstars. It is well documented that in almost any sport, talent slips through the cracks and falls into the laps of team managers. Without a doubt, the draft is an imperfect way to allocate talent if the ideal is competitive parity among teams. Regardless, the draft is here to stay and general managers will go on trying to get the most out of all of their picks, not just those in the first round.



The real intention of this article was to shed some light on the talent selection process in the SHL and SMJHL and see if GMs in both leagues tend to agree on which players will become exceptional players. The beauty of looking at it this way, is that general managers in the SHL have a sample player data and time for evaluation that most junior GMs do not. The general notion would be that this gives SHL GMs the opportunity to ensure that junior GMs were right and therefore, assessed talent properly.



As for my own conclusions: It is hard to say that I am completely happy with the way that I decided to collect all of the data. While my set, in my own mind, seems a little flawed; I developed some logic behind my decision to pull my data this way and it kept it to a reasonable amount that people might actually be interested in reading. I didn’t want to pull too many recent drafts because the jury is still out on most of those players. At least, with these figures I had some room to do some objective assessment of player success outside of mere draft position change. For the most part, I found that players drafted in the first round of either draft went on to be successful in the SHL. Obviously, this could spark a long discussion about the nature of the SHL’s recreate system; and how players who have established a reputation, a bank account and have had player success before are more highly regarded than rookies or league labeled problem players.



All in all, I found this to be quite rewarding to look at and I’m interested to see what others think. Largely, I feel that GMs in both leagues have a pretty good grip on which players are going to be successful. Whether that is due to the recreate system or sheer solid scouting is really up for you to decide. Personally, I feel that it is a combination of both. I’d like to put to rest a little bit of the contention going on in the league that people deserve to be drafted in places higher or lower than they were. GMs take you because you fill a need for them; it is generally not a matter of self-worth or capability but rather fit that lands a player in some draft position. So when your next draft rolls around, whether SHL or SMJHL, sit back relax and look forward to finding out where you fit in the crowd. Don’t be too overjoyed or upset depending on the numeric figure that sits beside your name, because for the most part those GMs that are calling out your name have a perfect idea of where you will fit today, and seasons from now on your new team.

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No lahey in that s14 draft very dissapointed :'(

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Very nice write up. BTW I was selected in the second round of the S14 SHL draft.

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This is incredible. Honestly I feel like this should be pinned for people or revamped so it can be pinned for people so that way new people like myself can learn more about the SHL

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Nice read Smile

I think Vranitzky retired during his junior season to recreate in a different position, not a 100% sure on that though.

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I spy my name! Woooooo! Unfortunately, I'm not a team leading type of player like Verminksi or Keenan. Fun read though. Smile
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Love this article.

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Quote:Originally posted by Andybj18@Jul 10 2014, 09:40 AM
This is incredible. Honestly I feel like this should be pinned for people or revamped so it can be pinned for people so that way new people like myself can learn more about the SHL

I'd like to do some more in-depth work on this for sure. This was very very broad and only scratches the surface of what I feel like I could have done.

With that said, it needs to remain fairly simple for the general audience. It could also use some general cleaning of my personal objective opinion if it was going to be pinned somewhere. Atleast, I think so.

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Quote:Originally posted by RomanesEuntDomus@Jul 10 2014, 09:45 AM
Nice read Smile

I think Vranitzky retired during his junior season to recreate in a different position, not a 100% sure on that though.

Correct.

Worth noting that the S16 draft also had Stryfe, who is 2nd in tpe gain behind Rose and would definitely be considered worthy of a top 2 pick.
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Lahey was season 14 junior draft not season 12 just saying Tongue

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Now do S7 Tongue

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Fantastic and informative read nike!!!

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Quote:Originally posted by Winteriscoming@Jul 10 2014, 11:23 AM
Lahey was season 14 junior draft not season 12 just saying Tongue


28th overall in this draft was also Lahey?

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:lol: It's funny because i'm Brundahl. Had the highest TPE out of the NWJHL draft but went inactive. Kind of like how I am now ... Deja vu?!

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Quote:Originally posted by Boomcheck@Jul 10 2014, 01:21 PM
:lol: It's funny because i'm Brundahl. Had the highest TPE out of the NWJHL draft but went inactive. Kind of like how I am now ... Deja vu?!

How the hell did you never tell me this?

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