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ErM · 05-07-2018, 02:16 AM

We have just completed one season using the new guidelines (see below) and I think overall the quality of PBPs was solid without any issues in the product put out by those running them. Great job to everyone on that front! However, there are still going to be some changes for next season. I will get to those in a minute, but first I want to encourage people to post what they liked, what they didn't like, what they'd like to see, or any other new ideas for PBPs here.

Now onto the changes! First, there has been a slight adjustment to the TPE payout system. Everything is the same for those that complete a PBP. However, for those that sign-up for a PBP AND are granted one that does not end up happening (from a series ending early) OR from an alternate that does not receive a game, ONE uncapped TPE can be earned by completing the Top PBP survey at the end of the season that determines payouts. This was done this past season and three people received one TPE. An alternate that does not accept a PBP if one becomes available will not be eligible for this TPE. This is the only change that is 100% going into effect. This gives a few more people in the league that want to participate in PBPs the opportunity to at least get some TPE. This past season every person that signed up for a PBP has the opportunity to earn at least one TPE.

Though no official change has been made yet, I think it is necessary to tighten up on the times granted to complete PBPs. I have two ideas and want to hear people's thoughts. We are a community that is across the entire globe, so the time thing can be tricky. I am also open other ideas on this one.

1. We simply cut the amount of time you have from 12 hours to 8 hours, this is from when you receive the game index from the PBP director.
2. We have a set time that the PBP must be started by. I am thinking something along the lines of, if you accept an evening game (game is simmed in the evening) it must be started by 10 AM the next morning. If you accept a morning game (the game is simmed in the morning) it must be started by 6 PM that day. Or something along those lines, obviously times are flexible. This would essential make it so the morning "simmed" game is usually the game we see in the evening and vice versa for the evening "simmed" game. This would also the eliminate the issue where PBPs are waiting around for the previous person to complete a game so they can start theirs.

I would also like to change the "finish PBP in a reasonable time" to finish within 3 hours. Honestly, that's a bit long for my tastes, but I think you can be actively "doing it live" and keep it under 3 hours. We can experiment from there and reduce it further in the future.

I want to once again emphasize to bring your ideas here/comment on the above! Thanks for your input.

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PBP Guidelines

The Basics
PBPs are for finals only.
Payout will be 5 TPE for completing a PBP with a potential bonus up to 3 TPE.
Games must be accepted after 4 hours.
Evening games (games simmed in the evening) must be started by 10:00 AM the following day.
Morning games (games simmed in the morning) must be started by 6:00 PM that day.
At minimum, a PBP should be completed in 3 or fewer hours and highlight the exciting moments of a game. PBPs should not be made up solely of exact copy/paste jobs or screen shots of the game index.

PBP Claims
PBP Claims will be done in FOUR groups: SMJHL Morning, SMJHL Evening, SHL Morning, SHL Evening.
You may sign up for ONE draw by posting in the thread with what draw you’d like to be included in. If multiple posts are made your most recent post will be considered your sign up.
A random lottery will be publically streamed for each group. All 14 possible games will be assigned at this time. In addition, two alternates will be drawn for each time slot (Mornings, Evenings) to replace anyone who does not accept or start their PBP on time.

PBP Trades
PBP’s may be traded between two players that both have PBPs in the same season. For a trade to be official BOTH members must confirm with the PBP director.

PBP Alternate Process
The alternates will be contacted via the in-game message system about the opening, the first to reply will receive the game. If neither alternate is available or they do not reply within FOUR hours, the game will be made available publicly via the forums where the first person to reply to the thread, that has not already completed a PBP that season will receive the game.
If someone who has rights to a future game that is not guaranteed at the time of the “free claim”, they may claim the earlier game. Their future game will go through the same PBP alternate process.

Bonus TPE
Everyone that does a PBP can earn 3 bonus TPE. This TPE will be awarded as follows:
+1 TPE for finishing the PBP in a reasonable time
+1 TPE for adding something extra to the PBP (personal commentary, gifs, images, etc)
+1 TPE for if the viewers enjoyed it (as shown in pre-PBP poll: “Did you like this PBP?”, thread activity, comments, etc.)

Alternate/Short Series TPE
If you sign-up for a PBP AND are granted one that does not end up happening (from a series ending early) OR from an alternate that does not receive a game, ONE uncapped TPE can be earned by completing the Top PBP survey at the end of the season that determines payouts. An alternate that does not accept a PBP if one becomes available will not be eligible for this TPE.

PBP Penalties
If you do not accept your PBP within FOUR hours by telling the PBP director in a PM on discord or the forums, you will lose your game. No exceptions.
If you do not begin your PBP within TWELVE hours from when you were SENT the message to accept, you will lose your game. No exceptions.
Everyone will have ONE freebie to fail to meet the PBP criteria. You will receive a warning on the forums. If you fail to meet the PBP criteria twice you will be excluded from the PBP lottery for the next season. Cases of a third offense will be dealt with on a case by case basis with the HO’s input.

Monetary Bonuses
The three best PBPs will be awarded bonuses of five, three, and one million.
To qualify for these bonuses you MUST receive all three bonus TPE.
The best PBPs will be determined based on creativity, building anticipation, entertainment, and effort (judged by original content word count, images, etc.) and voted on by everyone who completed a PBP this season and the PBP director. The PBP director will send a list of PBPs that met the 3 TPE requirement and a poll to all PBPers to rate all of the PBPs with the top 3 earning monetary bonuses.

***JR95*** · 05-07-2018, 10:55 AM

One thing that should probably be emphasized, especially with new people is that it is HIGHLY recommended that you pre write the entire PbP before you start posting it on the site. Then just copy paste chunks and spoon feed the audience for 30-45 minutes.

The only reason we have long PbPs are because they aren't pre written. If it is made clear that this is now expected when writting a pbp it could save a looot of time.

ArGarBarGar · 05-07-2018, 11:24 AM

Quote:Originally posted by JR95@May 7 2018, 09:55 AM
One thing that should probably be emphasized, especially with new people is that it is HIGHLY recommended that you pre write the entire PbP before you start posting it on the site. Then just copy paste chunks and spoon feed the audience for 30-45 minutes.

The only reason we have long PbPs are because they aren't pre written. If it is made clear that this is now expected when writting a pbp it could save a looot of time.

I have never had an issue with writing them as I go.

The bigger thing is you don't have to talk about everything. The point is to provide an interesting narrative and not just regugrgitate ebery shot, block, hit, etc.

And the key word is "narrative." The worst PbPs are those which don't actually do decent commentary and just say "shot, save, goal, block, again" over and over.

Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
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***JR95*** · 05-07-2018, 11:42 AM

Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@May 7 2018, 10:24 AM

I have never had an issue with writing them as I go.

The bigger thing is you don't have to talk about everything. The point is to provide an interesting narrative and not just regugrgitate ebery shot, block, hit, etc.

And the key word is "narrative." The worst PbPs are those which don't actually do decent commentary and just say "shot, save, goal, block, again" over and over.

Thats cool that you dont, but 9/10 people do.

ArGarBarGar · 05-07-2018, 11:44 AM

Quote:Originally posted by JR95@May 7 2018, 10:42 AM

Thats cool that you dont, but 9/10 people do.

K

Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
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***JR95*** · 05-07-2018, 11:45 AM

Quote:Originally posted by ArGarBarGar@May 7 2018, 10:44 AM

K

What an insightful and thoughtful response. Thank you for adding to the conversation.

CBear · 05-07-2018, 11:50 AM

Honestly, I think PBP are the best part of the playoffs. The Jets went through 2 game 7 overtimes and it would have been so exciting to live it through a pbp. instead, open the link. cool we won. well dang we lost. that's that.
my interest is now gone.

ArGarBarGar · 05-07-2018, 12:01 PM

Quote:Originally posted by JR95@May 7 2018, 10:45 AM

What an insightful and thoughtful response. Thank you for adding to the conversation.

How else would you like me to respond when you don't even acknowledge my major point when it comes to bad PBPs?

Alonzo Garbanzo Final Tallies (Among Defensemen):
2nd in Goals (208), All-Time Assists Leader (765)*, All-Time Points Leader (973), 3rd in Hits (2587), All-Time Blocked Shots Leader (1882)*
*All-Time Leader Among All Skaters
Player Profile | Update Thread
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