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RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - SecondSucks22 - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:22 PMCementHands Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:13 PMfishy Wrote: Teddy might singlehandedly be the most important individual this site has, let’s avoid attacking him personally or questioning his integrity. @JKortesi81 and @39alaska39 you guys specifically as GMs should have a better idea of who Teddy is as an individual and how much work he does for the site and should do better. Anyone with half a brain knows Teddy wouldn’t let his connections to HAM influence his decision making.

To Joe specifically, let’s get off your high horse. NOLA is not exactly the standard for a team with strong morals and good values or have we already forgotten your cheating incidents in the playoffs in the mid S50s?

There are issues with the severity of the punishment, yes, but to question Teddy’s integrity or ask for him to be removed is beyond fucked. this site isn’t alive right now without Teddy.

Deciding to keep the players with the team that they already started getting integrated into was the right decision if the SHLs senior officials aims to do right by the individual player. With that said, HAM definitely should’ve lost their next first rounder or something rather than a second round pick in 16 months

Yes teddy has done an amazing amount of work for the site, yes it’s not anywhere near this without him. That doesn’t make him infallible. It doesn’t mean people shouldn’t question. Nour recused himself (rightfully) because of ties to the team, and teddy who is well known mr hamilton and still rocks a ham pfp in his avatar stepped over them to make a ruling. It looks bad, is probably just looking bad and nothing more than that, but this is a very bad look for the site.
It also doesnt help that the only other active owner came in here with a fuck you attitude


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Pythonic - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:13 PMfishy Wrote: Teddy might singlehandedly be the most important individual this site has, let’s avoid attacking him personally or questioning his integrity. @JKortesi81 and @39alaska39 you guys specifically as GMs should have a better idea of who Teddy is as an individual and how much work he does for the site and should do better. Anyone with half a brain knows Teddy wouldn’t let his connections to HAM influence his decision making.

To Joe specifically, let’s get off your high horse. NOLA is not exactly the standard for a team with strong morals and good values or have we already forgotten your cheating incidents in the playoffs in the mid S50s?

There are issues with the severity of the punishment, yes, but to question Teddy’s integrity or ask for him to be removed is beyond fucked. this site isn’t alive right now without Teddy.

Deciding to keep the players with the team that they already started getting integrated into was the right decision if the SHLs senior officials aims to do right by the individual player. With that said, HAM definitely should’ve lost their next first rounder or something rather than a second round pick in 16 months
How can it be considered cheating if it wasn't clear, cut and dry in the rulebook? Bad take imo, smh.


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - fishy - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:25 PMSecondSucks22 Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:22 PMCementHands Wrote: Yes teddy has done an amazing amount of work for the site, yes it’s not anywhere near this without him. That doesn’t make him infallible. It doesn’t mean people shouldn’t question. Nour recused himself (rightfully) because of ties to the team, and teddy who is well known mr hamilton and still rocks a ham pfp in his avatar stepped over them to make a ruling. It looks bad, is probably just looking bad and nothing more than that, but this is a very bad look for the site.
It also doesnt help that the only other active owner came in here with a fuck you attitude

I’m not saying the decision isn’t infallible, I’m just saying if you’ve interacted w Teddy at all you know he’s not the type of individual to let personal biases influence an owners decision. Again, I also don’t think it was the right severity of punishment, but to come in here and say shit like Mr Steelhawk himself had to come save his team and shit is just plain dumb.

Regarding Leafs response, That’s also not exactly a Teddy issue, and I think JYs response to Leafs was well put and well said and I, like everyone else, look forward to his response.


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - fishy - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:30 PMPythonic Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:13 PMfishy Wrote: Teddy might singlehandedly be the most important individual this site has, let’s avoid attacking him personally or questioning his integrity. @JKortesi81 and @39alaska39 you guys specifically as GMs should have a better idea of who Teddy is as an individual and how much work he does for the site and should do better. Anyone with half a brain knows Teddy wouldn’t let his connections to HAM influence his decision making.

To Joe specifically, let’s get off your high horse. NOLA is not exactly the standard for a team with strong morals and good values or have we already forgotten your cheating incidents in the playoffs in the mid S50s?

There are issues with the severity of the punishment, yes, but to question Teddy’s integrity or ask for him to be removed is beyond fucked. this site isn’t alive right now without Teddy.

Deciding to keep the players with the team that they already started getting integrated into was the right decision if the SHLs senior officials aims to do right by the individual player. With that said, HAM definitely should’ve lost their next first rounder or something rather than a second round pick in 16 months
How can it be considered cheating if it wasn't clear, cut and dry in the rulebook? Bad take imo, smh.

You mean this one? https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=105846


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Pythonic - 08-20-2021

oh also, thread team

Joseph Weston-Alexander Roach-Karl Krashwagen
Jack Kanoff-Esa Parmborg-Burlok Sulfurgold
Ryu Jones-Bobby Lane-Nat Emerson

Vili Tuga’tūga’bo’atu-Finn von Murphenstein
Jannik Nordstern-Granny PanPan
Rotticus Scott-Valtterri Kauppinen

Cale Amundsen

Sadly, there were not enough dmen for the thread team :(

so i decided to reunite two lovers Smile


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Pythonic - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:38 PMfishy Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:30 PMPythonic Wrote: How can it be considered cheating if it wasn't clear, cut and dry in the rulebook? Bad take imo, smh.

You mean this one? https://simulationhockey.com/showthread.php?tid=105846
I see nothing here. Why did you send me a bad link?


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Evok - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:38 PMPythonic Wrote: oh also, thread team

Joseph Weston-Alexander Roach-Karl Krashwagen
Jack Kanoff-Esa Parmborg-Burlok Sulfurgold
Ryu Jones-Bobby Lane-Nat Emerson

Vili Tuga’tūga’bo’atu-Finn von Murphenstein
Jannik Nordstern-Granny PanPan
Rotticus Scott-Valtterri Kauppinen

Cale Amundsen

Sadly, there were not enough dmen for the thread team :(

so i decided to reunite two lovers Smile

where me :(


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Count Chocula - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 06:39 PMDrunkenTeddy Wrote:
08-20-2021, 06:24 PMKeygan Wrote: I believe wholeheartedly that head office should be allowed to post their conclusion prior to head office stepping in, as I think they are going to eat a lot of flak for something they had nothing to do with.

HO originally was going to let all 3 go to bidding. While I'm sure people would love to see Hamilton lose 3 1st round picks due to negligence, it is absolutely not what the rule was meant for. I feel partially responsible for not pointing that out in Tommy's rule overview/clarification. The whole point is to stop GMs from abusing a loophole that allowed them to keep players rights without spending cap.

So instead we see them with a slap on the wrist due to HO incompetence


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Pythonic - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:43 PMEvok Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:38 PMPythonic Wrote: oh also, thread team

Joseph Weston-Alexander Roach-Karl Krashwagen
Jack Kanoff-Esa Parmborg-Burlok Sulfurgold
Ryu Jones-Bobby Lane-Nat Emerson

Vili Tuga’tūga’bo’atu-Finn von Murphenstein
Jannik Nordstern-Granny PanPan
Rotticus Scott-Valtterri Kauppinen

Cale Amundsen

Sadly, there were not enough dmen for the thread team :(

so i decided to reunite two lovers Smile

where me :(
you were not here when i made the team. sry


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Thelastheraclid - 08-20-2021

This is just a big ol' pile of bullshit


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - ACapitalChicago - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:38 PMPythonic Wrote: oh also, thread team

Joseph Weston-Alexander Roach-Karl Krashwagen
Jack Kanoff-Esa Parmborg-Burlok Sulfurgold
Ryu Jones-Bobby Lane-Nat Emerson

Vili Tuga’tūga’bo’atu-Finn von Murphenstein
Jannik Nordstern-Granny PanPan
Rotticus Scott-Valtterri Kauppinen

Cale Amundsen

Sadly, there were not enough dmen for the thread team :(

so i decided to reunite two lovers Smile

Woo!


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - SecondSucks22 - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:35 PMfishy Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:25 PMSecondSucks22 Wrote: It also doesnt help that the only other active owner came in here with a fuck you attitude

I’m not saying the decision isn’t infallible, I’m just saying if you’ve interacted w Teddy at all you know he’s not the type of individual to let personal biases influence an owners decision. Again, I also don’t think it was the right severity of punishment, but to come in here and say shit like Mr Steelhawk himself had to come save his team and shit is just plain dumb.

Regarding Leafs response, That’s also not exactly a Teddy issue, and I think JYs response to Leafs was well put and well said and I, like everyone else, look forward to his response.
Oh i should clarify, i love teddy to a fault, he knows it,  and i fully believe he could do no wrong. My statement is mostly regarding the way the owners are being viewed as a whole rn


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - hockeyiscool - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 08:45 PMsimo_393 Wrote: Fuck everyone... I'll ever play for including me S69 recreate.
Nice. *finger guns*


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - CementHands - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:35 PMfishy Wrote:
08-20-2021, 11:25 PMSecondSucks22 Wrote: It also doesnt help that the only other active owner came in here with a fuck you attitude

I’m not saying the decision isn’t infallible, I’m just saying if you’ve interacted w Teddy at all you know he’s not the type of individual to let personal biases influence an owners decision. Again, I also don’t think it was the right severity of punishment, but to come in here and say shit like Mr Steelhawk himself had to come save his team and shit is just plain dumb.

Regarding Leafs response, That’s also not exactly a Teddy issue, and I think JYs response to Leafs was well put and well said and I, like everyone else, look forward to his response.

So if you read what I said you would take what I said a bit differently. I am not saying he’s maliscious in intent at all. Anyone who has spent 5 minutes with teddy would know this. He is the blood of this fucking league for god sakes. I’m saying this is way overstepping not even letting Head Office do their job. They could have prepped this post and dropped it after, but they didn’t.


RE: HAM Punishment and Ruling on Draftee Signings - Thelastheraclid - 08-20-2021

08-20-2021, 11:38 PMPythonic Wrote: oh also, thread team

Joseph Weston-Alexander Roach-Karl Krashwagen
Jack Kanoff-Esa Parmborg-Burlok Sulfurgold
Ryu Jones-Bobby Lane-Nat Emerson

Vili Tuga’tūga’bo’atu-Finn von Murphenstein
Jannik Nordstern-Granny PanPan
Rotticus Scott-Valtterri Kauppinen

Cale Amundsen

Sadly, there were not enough dmen for the thread team :(

so i decided to reunite two lovers Smile

oh snap my first ever thread team!

This punishment is still bullshit